Small block with velocity inside a large block at rest

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The discussion revolves around a problem involving a small block moving with an initial velocity inside a larger block that is at rest. The context includes concepts from conservation of momentum and energy, particularly focusing on the interactions between the two blocks.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to apply conservation of momentum and energy to the problem, expressing uncertainty about the correct application of these principles. Some participants question the conservation of momentum in the x-direction and suggest considering the y-direction instead, while also noting the influence of external forces.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different interpretations of momentum conservation and the effects of external forces. Some guidance has been offered regarding algebraic manipulation, but no consensus has been reached on the correct approach to the problem.

Contextual Notes

Participants are considering the implications of the normal force acting on the larger block and its impact on the conservation of momentum, indicating a complexity in the system that may affect the assumptions made in the original poster's approach.

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Homework Statement



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Homework Equations



(Conservation of momentum)
(Conservation of energy)

The Attempt at a Solution



I know linear momentum must be conserved on the X-axis, so

mvo=mv1x+Mv2

where v1 is the final velocity of the small mass and v2 is the final velocity of the large mass. Also, M=2m.

Energy is also conserved, so

(1/2)mvo2=(1/2)mv12+(1/2)Mv22+mgR

Since the problem stipulates that the 2 blocks never lose contact with each other, I'm guessing the momentum in the x direction would actually be

mvo=(m+M)v2

and v2=v1x

But I'm not sure if that is right, and so I'm not totally sure where to go from here.
 
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It looks like you have all the physics in place to solve it. Keep going with the algebra ...

When I solved it I wrote everything in terms of the velocity ##\vec{v}## of the small block, so that

##v^{\ 2}=v_x^{\ 2}+v_y^{\ 2}.##
 
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I don't think that momentum is conserved in the x-direction.
What can one say about conservation of momentum in the y-direction?
Also, the two blocks do not form an isolated system because of the normal
force on the larger block by the frictionless surface.
 
J Hann said:
I don't think that momentum is conserved in the x-direction.
What can one say about conservation of momentum in the y-direction?

There are no external forces in the x-direction.
There are external forces in the y-direction.

Also, the two blocks do not form an isolated system because of the normal
force on the larger block by the frictionless surface.

That normal force is one of the external forces in the y-direction.
 

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