Small Body on a Sphere loss of contact

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The problem involves a small body positioned on the surface of a smooth sphere, initially at a 45-degree angle from the center. The sphere is subjected to a constant horizontal acceleration of 9.8 m/s², and the objective is to determine when the body will lose contact with the sphere.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the treatment of forces acting on the body, including gravitational force and a pseudo force due to the sphere's acceleration. There is exploration of combining these forces to analyze the net force and its implications for the body's motion.

Discussion Status

Some participants have offered insights into the relationship between the forces acting on the body, while others are questioning the assumptions regarding the normal force and effective gravity in the context of the sphere's acceleration. There is an ongoing exploration of the components of the forces involved.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the sphere is not rotating and are considering the implications of the body's initial position and the conditions under which it will lose contact with the surface.

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Homework Statement



A small body is set on the surface of a smooth sphere at an angle of 45 degrees from the center. At this point the sphere is given a constant acceleration in the horizontal direction of 9.8 m/s/s. There is more in the question, but the goal is to find when the body will leave the circle.

Homework Equations



I'm wondering if from the s' frame I can treat the accelerations from psuedoforce due to the sphere's acceleration and the force from gravity as one acceleration toward the center of the sphere for the first quadrant. Since both equal 9.8 m/s/s, I want to simplify dealing with the normal force with a centripetal acceleration of 9.8 m/s/s.

The Attempt at a Solution



I figure since where ever the body lies on that quadrant, the force from gravity will be the sin and the psuedoforce from the acceleration will be the cos of the same angle. Thus, the net force from the two would be
=sqrt( {9.8sinx}^2 + {9.8cosx)^2 )
=sqrt( 9.8^2 {sin^2x + cos^2c} ) and the cos and sin squares would equal 1
=sqrt ( 9.8^2 ) which just equals 9.8

Does this make sense or am I missing something?
 
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hi jill2040! :smile:
jill2040 said:
I figure since where ever the body lies on that quadrant, the force from gravity will be the sin and the psuedoforce from the acceleration will be the cos of the same angle. Thus, the net force from the two would be …

[STRIKE]looks fine to me![/STRIKE]

though a simpler way of putting it would be to say that the two "forces" are equal and perpendicular, so their resultant is at 45° :smile:

EDIT: oops, no, it's not fine, i answered too quickly :redface:

i think you intended to find the component of each force in the tangential direction, and add them …

in that case, they're the same component, and you just add them (sin45° + cos45°) :wink:
 
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So as the sphere accelerates horizontally (and is not rotating I believe) the normal force as the body moves along the surface in the first quadrant is not just equal to m*9.8 m/s/s? I ask because the body starts at 45° and the question wants to know when it would leave the surface.
 
in the reference frame of the sphere (ie, in which the sphere is stationary), the effective gravity is the resultant of g downward and g horizontally …

a total magnitude of … in the … direction? :smile:
 
Ah, the effective gravity won't do what I'm describing, it will only appear that way at one point, which is where I probably got my notion.
 
jill2040 said:
Ah, the effective gravity won't do what I'm describing …

no, effective gravity is valid for the whole of space! (in the frame of the sphere) :smile:
 

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