Smoothing 3d prints with acetone

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The discussion revolves around the use of acetone for smoothing 3D prints, particularly in the context of creating injection molds. Participants explore the effectiveness of acetone on different materials, safety concerns, and alternative solvents.

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Main Points Raised

  • Joe expresses concern about the effectiveness of acetone on concave features of his 3D printed models and inquires about possible dilutions or cycling pure acetone through the injection system.
  • One participant questions the choice of material for injection molding, suggesting that thin-walled plastics may not be suitable due to high pressures.
  • Joe clarifies that he is currently using PLA and plans to use ABS and nylon in the future, noting that he uses thick walls for injection molding.
  • A participant warns about the flammability and explosive nature of acetone vapor, recommending a safer solvent instead.
  • Joe acknowledges the warning but points out the prevalence of acetone tutorials, questioning why safety concerns are not more commonly addressed.
  • Another participant humorously notes the importance of retaining members and their parts in the context of safety.
  • A participant provides a comparison of acetone's flammability relative to gasoline and pure ethanol, leaving the interpretation of this information open-ended.
  • One participant asserts that acetone does not dissolve PLA, indicating that the smoothing technique is primarily applicable to ABS and suggesting alternative solvents like THF or dichloromethane for PLA.
  • Concave surfaces or cavities are mentioned as not being a concern for the smoothing technique, as it involves vapor rather than immersion in liquid solvent.
  • Safety risks associated with heating volatile solvents outside of a fume hood are highlighted, emphasizing the need for caution.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the effectiveness of acetone for smoothing PLA, with some asserting it is ineffective while others discuss its common use for ABS. Safety concerns regarding the use of acetone are also debated, with no consensus on the best approach to solvent use.

Contextual Notes

The discussion includes varying assumptions about material properties and safety practices, with some participants relying on anecdotal evidence from tutorials while others emphasize the need for caution and alternative approaches.

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I'm in the process of 3d printing some injection molds, and I was looking at some tutorials for surface smoothing with evaporated acetone. My concern is that some of my models have concave features that the acetone will not reach. Is there a dilution that will still be effective? Alternately, what if I cycle pure acetone in and out with the injection system?

Many thanks in advance

Joe
 
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theycallmevirgo said:
I'm in the process of 3d printing some injection molds
What material are you printing with? Injection molding involves pretty high pressures, so thin-walled plastic would not typically be used.
 
Currently PLA, but of course later I would like to run ABS and nylon. Of course I do pretty thick walls for injection molding
 
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theycallmevirgo said:
I was looking at some tutorials for surface smoothing with evaporated acetone.
Acetone is very flammable, and Acetone vapor is explosive. I suggest using a safer solvent.
Try this search:https://www.google.com/search?&q=solvent+for+pla
 
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I mean, I don't disagree, and I will definitely follow your suggestion, but there are so many tutorials with acetone all over the place. Surely someone would have said something by now?
 
theycallmevirgo said:
Surely someone would have said something by now?
Apparently they didn't, so I figured I had better say something. :wink:
(we don't like loosing members)

Cheers,
Tom
 
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Tom.G said:
(we don't like loosing members)
And/or member parts.
 
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Acetone is less flammable than gasoline (edit: but more flammable than pure ethanol). Do with that info what you will.
 
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You said you're using PLA, so acetone won't do anything as it doesn't dissolve PLA.

This technique is commonly used with acetone on ABS, not on PLA.

Having concave surfaces or cavities won't matter.

The object is not immersed into liquid solvent, it's immersed into the saturated vapor phase above the surface of a heated liquid solvent in a container.

Just because lots of people do it, it doesn't mean it's risk free - heating up a volatile, flammable solvent outside of a fume hood *is* a fire/explosion risk.

For this to work on PLA, a different solvent that dissolves PLA is needed, like THF or dichloromethane.
 
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