SO(3) rotation of eigenvectors

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The discussion revolves around the rotation of eigenvectors in a quantum system influenced by a magnetic field, specifically focusing on how these eigenvectors transform under SO(3) rotations. The scope includes theoretical considerations, mathematical reasoning, and the application of rotation matrices in quantum mechanics.

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  • One participant presents the eigenvectors for a magnetic field and proposes a specific form for their transformation under rotation.
  • Another participant provides a link to a resource for calculating the matrix representation of the spin operator, suggesting it may aid in solving the problem.
  • A participant questions the form of a general rotation matrix, seeking clarification on its derivation.
  • Another suggests using angles to parametrize the spin matrix and mentions the similarity between 3D spatial rotation and 2D state space rotation.
  • Some participants express a need for additional steps or guidance in the calculations involved.
  • A participant elaborates on the parametrization of the full rotation group and discusses the use of Euler angles in quantum theory.
  • One participant inquires about the correspondence of Pauli matrices to the angles used in their specific case and seeks clarification on the identification of diametral points on the boundary of a two-sphere.
  • Another participant describes the process of achieving a point on the two-sphere using polar and azimuthal angles, outlining the sequence of rotations involved.

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Participants express varying degrees of understanding and approaches to the problem, with no clear consensus on the best method for proving the transformation of eigenvectors under SO(3) rotation. Multiple competing views and methods are presented, indicating an unresolved discussion.

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Participants mention the complexity of the rotation group and its parametrization, indicating that the discussion may depend on specific definitions and assumptions regarding the rotation matrices and eigenvector transformations.

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Consider the eigenvectors ##(0, 1)## and ##(1, 0)## for the quantum system described the magnetic field ##\vec{B} = (0,0,B)##.

Say I now rotate the magnetic field as ##\vec{B} = (B\sin\theta\cos\phi,B\sin\theta\sin\phi,B\cos\theta)##.

Then the eigenvectors are supposed to change as ##(\cos(\theta/2),e^{i\phi}\sin(\theta/2))## and ##(-\sin(\theta/2),e^{i\phi}\cos(\theta/2))##.

How can I prove that under SO(3) rotation, this is how the eigenvectors change?

P.S. : I've written the eigenvectors as row vectors, but they should be column vectors.
 
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I was wondering if you could explain why a general rotation matrix is given by:

##\begin{pmatrix}
-\sin(\theta/2) & \cos(\theta/2) \\
e^{i\phi}\cos(\theta/2) & e^{i\phi}\sin(\theta/2)\\
\end{pmatrix}##?
 
Use the angles ##\theta## and ##\phi## to parametrize the 2x2 spin matrix ##S_u## (along axis u) and solve its eigenvectors. Both the 3D spatial rotation and the 2D state space rotation have two parameters in them.
 
Some steps would be helpful.
 
Note that the full rotation group is a three-parameter group. Most common are two ways to parametrize it. One is to use a vector ##\vec{\phi}## in a sphere of radius ##\pi## (with diametral points on the boundary identified). Then the spin-1/2 representation is given by
$$\hat{D}(\vec{\phi})=\exp(-\mathrm{i} \vec{\phi} \cdot \hat{\vec{\sigma}}/2),$$
where ##\hat{\vec{\sigma}}## are the Pauli matrices.

The other way are Euler angles. In quantum theory one usually uses the variant, where you rotate around the 3- and the 2-axis:
$$\hat{R}(\alpha,\beta,\gamma)=\hat{D}_3(\alpha) \hat{D}_2(\beta) \hat{D}_3(\gamma), \quad \alpha,\gamma \in [0,2 \pi[, \quad \beta \in [0,\pi[.$$
The matrices ##\hat{D}_j## (##j \in \{1,2,3 \}##) are given by
$$\hat{D}_j(\phi)=\exp(-\mathrm{i} \sigma_j \phi/2).$$
 
Some steps would be helpful.

You will find the matrices representing ##S_{x}, S_{y}## and ##S_z## from the site I linked to. Now create the spin operator ##S_u =
\sin\theta\cos\phi S_x + \sin\theta\sin\phi S_y + \cos\theta S_z## and calculate its eigenvalues and eigenvectors with the usual method of characteristic polynomial, linear pair of equations...
 
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vanhees71 said:
Note that the full rotation group is a three-parameter group. Most common are two ways to parametrize it. One is to use a vector ##\vec{\phi}## in a sphere of radius ##\pi## (with diametral points on the boundary identified). Then the spin-1/2 representation is given by
$$\hat{D}(\vec{\phi})=\exp(-\mathrm{i} \vec{\phi} \cdot \hat{\vec{\sigma}}/2),$$
where ##\hat{\vec{\sigma}}## are the Pauli matrices.

In my case, I have a two-sphere. So, I was wondering which Pauli matrices correspond to ##\phi## and ##\theta##.

Also, what does it mean for the diametral points on the boundary to be identified?
 
I don't know, what you want to achieve with your rotation. If you want a point on the two-sphere the meaning of the usual angles (polar and azimuthal) is to rotate the point on the northpole first by ##\theta## (##\theta \in (0,\pi)##) around the ##x## axis and then the result by ##\phi## (##\phi \in [0,2 \pi)##) around the (new) ##z## axis, i.e.,
$$\hat{D}(\theta,\phi)=\hat{D}_3(\phi) \hat{D}_1(\theta).$$
 

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