So I get the same answer as the book except for a constant term.

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The discussion centers around the evaluation of the integral $\displaystyle\int \sin^3x\cos^3x\,dx$. Participants explore various methods of integration, substitutions, and transformations, comparing their results with a solution provided in a textbook. The conversation includes technical reasoning and attempts to identify errors in the original approach.

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  • One participant presents a solution involving the substitution $\displaystyle u=2x$ and transforms the integral into a form involving $\sin^3 2x$.
  • Another participant suggests a different substitution, $\displaystyle z = \cos(u)$, and points out potential issues with the original substitution.
  • A later reply proposes rewriting the integral as a difference of two integrals, $\displaystyle \int \sin^3(x)\cos(x)\,dx$ and $\displaystyle \int \sin^5(x)\cos(x)\,dx$, and suggests using $\displaystyle u=\sin(x)$ for both integrals.
  • One participant expresses confusion about their answer compared to the textbook, indicating a belief that the book's answer may represent a different version of the integral.
  • Another participant attempts to reconcile their results with the textbook by substituting expressions for $\cos(2x)$ in terms of $\sin^2(x)$ and simplifying the resulting expression.

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Participants do not reach a consensus on the correct solution. There are multiple approaches and interpretations of the integral, leading to different results. Some participants agree on the validity of certain substitutions, while others challenge the correctness of the original solution.

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Participants express uncertainty regarding the equivalence of their results and the textbook answer, highlighting potential differences in interpretation or simplification of the integral. There are unresolved steps in the mathematical reasoning, particularly concerning the transformations and substitutions used.

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i'm kind of unsure of my solution here please check.

$\displaystyle\int \sin^3x\cos^3x= \int(\sin x \cos x)^3 =\int(\frac{1}{2}\sin2x)^3=\frac{1}{8}\int \sin^3 2x dx$

$\displaystyle u=2x$; $\displaystyle du=2dx$; $\displaystyle dx=\frac{1}{2}du$

$\displaystyle \frac{1}{8}\int \frac{1}{2}\sin^3 u du= \frac{1}{16}\int \sin^3 udu=\frac{1}{16}\int \sin^2 u(\sin u)du=\frac{1}{16}\int \sin u(1-\cos^2 u)du$

$\displaystyle z=\cos u$; $\displaystyle dz=-\sin u du$; $\displaystyle du=-\frac{dz}{\sin u}$$\displaystyle-\frac{1}{16}\int \sin u(1-z^2)\frac{dz}{\sin u}=-\frac{1}{16}\int (1-z^2)dz$

$\displaystyle-\frac{1}{16}\left(z-\frac{z^3}{3}\right)+C=-\frac{1}{16}z+\frac{1}{48}z^3+C$= $\displaystyle -\frac{1}{16}\cos 2x+\frac{1}{48}\cos^3 2x+C$ ---> this is my answer

but in my book the answer is different $\displaystyle \frac{1}{4}\sin^4 x-\frac{1}{6}\sin^6 x+C$

please tell me where i was wrong.
 
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Re: trigonometric integrals

Well the first thing that sticks out is that if you make the substitution \displaystyle \begin{align*} z = \cos{(u)} \end{align*} then \displaystyle \begin{align*} dz = -\sin{(u)}\,du \end{align*}...
 
Re: trigonometric integrals

Prove It said:
Well the first thing that sticks out is that if you make the substitution \displaystyle \begin{align*} z = \cos{(u)} \end{align*} then \displaystyle \begin{align*} dz = -\sin{(u)}\,du \end{align*}...

i've changed my answer to this $\displaystyle -\frac{1}{16}\cos 2x+\frac{1}{48}\cos^3 2x+C$

can you help me with the other mistakes.
 
Re: trigonometric integrals

I would rewrite the integral as:

$$\int \sin^3(x)\left(1-\sin^2(x) \right)\cos(x)\,dx=\int\sin^3(x)\cos(x)\,dx-\int\sin^5(x)\cos(x)\,dx$$

and then for both integrals use the substitution:

$$u=\sin(x)\,\therefore\,du=\cos(x)\,dx$$
 
Re: trigonometric integrals

paulmdrdo said:
= $\displaystyle -\frac{1}{16}\cos 2x+\frac{1}{48}\cos^3 2x+C$ ---> this is my answer

but in my book the answer is different $\displaystyle \frac{1}{4}\sin^4 x-\frac{1}{6}\sin^6 x+C$

please tell me where i was wrong.

I get the same result following your work so I feel the book is a different version of yours.

$\cos(2x) = 1-2\sin^2(x)$
$\displaystyle -\frac{1}{16}(1-2\sin^2(x))+\frac{1}{48}(1-2\sin^2(x))^3+C$

$\displaystyle -\frac{1}{16} + \frac{1}{8}\sin^2(x)) +\frac{1}{48} ( 1 - 6\sin^2(x) + 12\sin^4(x) - 8\sin^6(x))+ C$

$\displaystyle -\frac{1}{16} + \frac{1}{8}\sin^2(x)) +\frac{1}{48} - \frac{1}{8}\sin^2(x) + \frac{1}{4}\sin^4(x) - \frac{1}{6}\sin^6(x)+ C$

$\displaystyle -\frac{1}{16} +\frac{1}{48} + \frac{1}{4}\sin^4(x) - \frac{1}{6}\sin^6(x)+ C$

$\displaystyle -\frac{1}{16} +\frac{1}{48} + \frac{1}{4}\sin^4(x) - \frac{1}{6}\sin^6(x)+ C' \text{ where } C' = C + \frac{1}{16} - \frac{1}{48}$

$\displaystyle \frac{1}{4}\sin^4(x) - \frac{1}{6}\sin^6(x)+ C'$
 

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