Solar AC for Car: How Many Panels Needed?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the feasibility of using solar panels to power a small inverter for air conditioning or fan use in a car. Participants explore the number of solar panels required based on specific power ratings and efficiency considerations.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant estimates needing around 1000 solar panels based on the specifications provided (4V, 100 mA output) to power a 100W inverter.
  • Another participant raises concerns about the practicality of using a large solar array on a car, mentioning potential theft and parking conditions.
  • A suggestion is made to consider a detachable solar panel system to avoid overheating the car when parked.
  • A participant provides a calculation showing that with an inverter's efficiency, approximately 350 solar panels would be needed to achieve the necessary power output, questioning the necessity of using an inverter for DC appliances.
  • There is a suggestion to use 12 VDC appliances directly instead of relying on an inverter, which may simplify the setup.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the number of solar panels required and the practicality of using an inverter versus direct DC appliances. The discussion remains unresolved with multiple competing perspectives on the best approach.

Contextual Notes

Participants have not reached a consensus on the exact number of panels needed, and assumptions about efficiency and power requirements vary. There are also considerations regarding the practicality of installation and use in a car environment.

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Hi,


This is my first post here. I am planning to work on small project for my car, wherein I could power up a small inverter which would in turn start a fan / ac in my car.

I am just confused on how many panels I would need to accomplish this project.

solar panel output 4V -100 ma


inverter specs

power rating 100W

input 12V



I think I would need around 1000 this small panels. can anyone please confirm this?
 
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ironman_marvel said:
Hi,This is my first post here. I am planning to work on small project for my car, wherein I could power up a small inverter which would in turn start a fan / ac in my car.

I am just confused on how many panels I would need to accomplish this project.

solar panel output 4V -100 mainverter specs

power rating 100W

input 12V
I think I would need around 1000 this small panels. can anyone please confirm this?

Welcome to the PF.

The usual problem with placing a big enough array on top of your car to effectively cool it is that the array will be valuable enough to be stolen. Where are you planning on parking your car?
 
I am planning for something that can be detached/attached as and when required. Just want an idea for proper number of solar panels. Or any other idea to use solar power to provide power for ac
 
ironman_marvel said:
I am planning for something that can be detached/attached as and when required. Just want an idea for proper number of solar panels. Or any other idea to use solar power to provide power for ac

But if you detach it when you leave the car alone, it will be very hot when you return...

(Can you tell that I recently went through this math with someone else...?)
 
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ironman marvel, Welcome to Physics Forums!

You may use power to get some idea of the size of the solar panel necessary. Power is measured in watts. Power (in watts) = Current (in amps) X Voltage (in volts).

1. Solar panel power output = 0.1 amps X 4.0 volts = 0.4 watts (in full sun)
2. Inverter capacity (full load) = 100 watts. Assuming you’d want the ability to draw full load (maximum power) with your loads (fans?), and inverters are typically only around 80% efficient, you’d need to apply roughly 130 watts to the input of the inverter to get 100 watts out.
3. How many 0.4 watt solar panels do you need to equal 140 watts? Perhaps 350 panels!

Why are you trying to drive AC loads? There are lots of fans that operate on 12 VDC and every other imaginable electrical appliance used in RVs, trailers, etc. can operate on 12 VDC.

Why bother using an inverter at all? I suggest you consider using 12 VDC appliances and solar panels to recharge the 12 VDC system.

Cheers, Bobbywhy
 
Hi guys,

Thanks for your inputs
 

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