Solar Panel Voltage Boost Troubleshooting

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around troubleshooting issues with a DC-DC boost converter used to charge a 12V battery from a solar panel outputting approximately 9.2V. Participants explore the technical challenges associated with voltage boosting and current limitations in this context.

Discussion Character

  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested
  • Experimental/applied

Main Points Raised

  • David describes the issue of the output voltage from the boost converter dropping after 10 seconds when set above 12.5V, suggesting a potential problem with the converter's operation.
  • Some participants propose that the small input-output voltage differential may be problematic, suggesting the use of a SEPIC topology converter instead.
  • There is a request for the specific boost converter model and its datasheet to better understand the issue.
  • One participant suggests that the shutdown behavior could be due to overload, either current or thermal, and recommends checking for an alternative model that meets the requirements.
  • Another participant raises the possibility that the battery may be drawing more current than the converter can handle and inquires about the type of battery being used.
  • Questions are posed regarding the voltage of the battery before connection and the control of output current to the battery.
  • One participant suggests a series wiring of the solar panels to increase voltage output, proposing an experimental approach to gather more data on the solar panel's current capability.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express various hypotheses regarding the cause of the voltage drop and potential solutions, indicating that multiple competing views remain without a consensus on the exact issue or the best approach to resolve it.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations in the discussion regarding the lack of specific measurements and data points, which are necessary to diagnose the problem accurately. Additionally, the dependence on the specifications of the boost converter and the characteristics of the solar panel and battery are noted as critical factors.

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Hello,

I Have built a 50w solar panel that gives an output of ~ 9.2v @ 5-6 amps during a good day. This is not enough to charge a 12v battery. To get around this, I am trying to use a DC-DC boost converter (specifications are below) and it is set to give an output voltage of 13.5v. The only problem I have is that the output voltage drops out after 10 seconds if the output voltage is set beyond 12.5v. Input voltage becomes the same as output voltage thereafter.

Here are the specifications of the Dc-Dc boost converter:

Specification:
Size:(LxWxH) 70 x 39 x 32 mm
Wide Input Voltage Range: DC 6 ~ 35V
Output Voltage: DC 1 ~ 35V
Conversion Efficiency: 90%
Maximum Output Current : 5A
Maximum Input Current : 7A
Operating Frequency : 120KHz

What a
m I doing wrong?

David
 
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davidsuzuki256 said:
Hello,

I Have built a 50w solar panel that gives an output of ~ 9.2v @ 5-6 amps during a good day. This is not enough to charge a 12v battery. To get around this, I am trying to use a DC-DC boost converter (specifications are below) and it is set to give an output voltage of 13.5v. The only problem I have is that the output voltage drops out after 10 seconds if the output voltage is set beyond 12.5v. Input voltage becomes the same as output voltage thereafter.

Here are the specifications of the Dc-Dc boost converter:

Specification:
Size:(LxWxH) 70 x 39 x 32 mm
Wide Input Voltage Range: DC 6 ~ 35V
Output Voltage: DC 1 ~ 35V
Conversion Efficiency: 90%
Maximum Output Current : 5A
Maximum Input Current : 7A
Operating Frequency : 120KHz

What a
m I doing wrong?

David
Welcome to the PF.

That's a pretty small input-output voltage differential for a simple boost DC-DC converter. You might need to use a SEPIC topology converter instead. Which boost converter chip are you using and with what component values?
 
Or, wait. You are using a canned commercial DC-DC converter module? Can you link to the datasheet?
 
Thanks for the response.

I am using this dc-dc boost converter: link.

I do not really care much about the output amp value. Only the output voltage has to be at least 13.5 for the boost converter to charge the battery. Unfortunately it doesn't last long and it will return to the open circuit voltage of the solar panel after 10-15 seconds. The booster also makes some ticking noises before the voltage drops to solar panel voltage.
 
Your description of shutting down is almost always due to overload, current or thermal overload in this case. That particular model seems to be discontinued. Check this site to see if another model will fill your needs. Link. And pay attention to the warning about its usage!
 
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davidsuzuki256 said:
Hello,

Battery may be drawing more than the rated current. Check with an ammeter. Also what type of battery - I assume lead acid.
 
What is the voltage of the 12V battery before connecting it to the solar panel?
 
As TomG and anorlunda have hinted it might be a problem of application.

What controls output current to the battery ? How much do you measure going to the battery ? Did you notice this caution in the directions at link you posted ?


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davidsuzuki256 said:
I Have built a 50w solar panel that gives an output of ~ 9.2v @ 5-6 amps during a good day...
...
What am I doing wrong?
Without some numbers we can only guess what is wrong.
Hook it up again and take some measurements.

1. What is voltage from solar panel just before the stepup converter shuts down?
2. What is current into the battery at that time ?

Can you try this experiment - rewire your panels in series not parallel so they make 18 volts instead of 9 ?
Then connect them straight to battery without the converter and see how much current flows when sun is bright. Don't leave them connected very long lest you overcharge the battery.
That gives us a data point on solar panel's current capability.

Then insert your converter between the solar panel and battery and let it step 18 volts down to 13.5
In bright sun it should operate as step down and in weak sun it should act as step up,
and if i have read that datasheet correctly it'll auto-select whichever it needs.
With a little bit of luck the inherent current limiting nature of your solar panel will cure the trouble.
If not you might have to employ a current limiter.

old jim
 

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