Solve a system of nonhomogeneous DEs

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The discussion revolves around solving a system of nonhomogeneous differential equations represented by the equation $$\ddot {\vec a}=A\vec a+B\dot{ \vec a}+\vec F$$, where A and B are known matrices and F is a constant vector. Participants are exploring methods to approach this problem, particularly focusing on the transition from a second-order to a first-order system.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • One participant suggests defining a new variable to reduce the order of the system, while expressing uncertainty about how to proceed with the term involving matrix A. Others discuss the implications of A being invertible and how that affects the approach to the problem. There is also mention of rewriting the equation in a scalar form to analyze the characteristic equation.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants sharing their thoughts on how to handle the non-homogeneous aspect of the differential equation. Some guidance has been offered regarding the transformation of the system and the use of characteristic equations, but there is no clear consensus on the next steps or resolution of the confusion surrounding the matrix terms.

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Participants are grappling with the complexity introduced by the matrix A and its invertibility, as well as the implications of the non-homogeneous term. There is a reference to external resources that may provide additional examples and explanations, but the specific details of those resources are not fully explored in the discussion.

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Homework Statement


Solve
$$\ddot {\vec a}=A\vec a+B\dot{ \vec a}+\vec F$$

if A and B are known matrices and F is a constant vector.

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The Attempt at a Solution



My plan was to define ##\vec b=\dot{\vec a}## to move from second order to first order system ##\dot{\vec b}=A\vec a+B\vec b+\vec F##

But now... well, I have got absolutely no idea how to continue! I wanted to use theorem 23 on page 580 in chapter 11.7 in this work: http://www.math.utah.edu/~gustafso/2250systems-de.pdf BUT I have got a ##A\vec a ## term... which... wel... I don't know what to do with it!
 
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skrat said:

Homework Statement


Solve
$$\ddot {\vec a}=A\vec a+B\dot{ \vec a}+\vec F$$

if A and B are known matrices and F is a constant vector.

Homework Equations

The Attempt at a Solution



My plan was to define ##\vec b=\dot{\vec a}## to move from second order to first order system ##\dot{\vec b}=A\vec a+B\vec b+\vec F##

But now... well, I have got absolutely no idea how to continue! I wanted to use theorem 23 on page 580 in chapter 11.7 in this work: http://www.math.utah.edu/~gustafso/2250systems-de.pdf BUT I have got a ##A\vec a ## term... which... wel... I don't know what to do with it!

If ##A## is invertible there is no reason to appeal to Theorem 23; that is just "overkill". Think first how you would deal with the scalar DE ##x'' = A x + B x' + c## when ##A, B, c## are constants and ##A \neq 0##.
 
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In case of a scalar DE i would rewrite your equation to $${x}''-B{x}'-Ax=c$$
Than the solution of a complementary part are roots of this characteristic equation $$D^2-BD-A=0$$ meaning $$D_{1,2}=\frac B 2 \pm \frac 1 2 \sqrt{B^2+4A}$$ therefore $$x_{hom}(t)=C_1e^{(\frac B 2 + \frac 1 2 \sqrt{B^2+4A})t}+C_2e^{(\frac B 2 - \frac 1 2 \sqrt{B^2+4A})t}.$$
To get the particular solution we could guess it. Or not? Let's say $$x_{part}=C_0$$
Right?
 
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In case of a scalar DE i would rewrite your equation to $${x}''-B{x}'-Ax=c$$
Than the solution of a complementary part are roots of this characteristic equation $$D^2-BD-A=0$$ meaning $$D_{1,2}=\frac B 2 \pm \frac 1 2 \sqrt{B^2+4A}$$ therefore $$x_{hom}(t)=C_1e^{(\frac B 2 + \frac 1 2 \sqrt{B^2+4A})t}+C_2e^{(\frac B 2 - \frac 1 2 \sqrt{B^2+4A})t}.$$
To get the particular solution we could guess it. Or not? Let's say $$x_{part}=C_0$$
Right?

If ##A,B,C## are constants and ##A \neq 0## the DE ##x'' = Ax + Bx' + C## is the same as the homogeneous DE
[tex](x+C/A)'' = A(x+C/A) + B(x+C/A)' .[/tex]

In your case it is not completely clear what to do in the case that ##A## is not invertible and the linear system ##Ar = F## has no solution.

BTW: my answer assumes that you know how to deal with the homogeneous system, and are just confused what to do about the non-homogeneous system (but with a constant "forcing" term).
 
If I understand you correctly, than in my case of system of equations and assuming A is invertible $${(x-A^{-1}C)}''=A(x-A^{-1}C)+B{(x-A^{-1}C)}'$$ with ##x## being a vector ##\vec x=(x(t),y(t))## or did I not understand you correctly?

Your assumption is wrong, to be honest. I am sure I used to know how to do this with matrices, yet I can't seem to remember, nor can I find any good paper with a nice explanation and an example.

However, if I define ##\vec y=(\vec x-A^{-1}C)## than the equation above can be written $${\vec y}''-B{\vec y}'-A\vec y=0.$$

Now all I was able to figure out from several papers is that it makes sense to define ##\vec u ={\vec y}'## to reduce the order of the differential equation. Doing so brings me to $$ { \vec u}'-B\vec u-A\vec y=0.$$

Now you can safely assume that the ##-A\vec y## term is confusing me. Without it I would find the eigenvalues and eigenvectors of a matrix B. With that term I have no idea!
 
skrat said:
If I understand you correctly, than in my case of system of equations and assuming A is invertible $${(x-A^{-1}C)}''=A(x-A^{-1}C)+B{(x-A^{-1}C)}'$$ with ##x## being a vector ##\vec x=(x(t),y(t))## or did I not understand you correctly?

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You can check this for yourself: do you get back the same DE?

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Your assumption is wrong, to be honest. I am sure I used to know how to do this with matrices, yet I can't seem to remember, nor can I find any good paper with a nice explanation and an example.

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The pdf file you cited has lots of examples in it.

************************However, if I define ##\vec y=(\vec x-A^{-1}C)## than the equation above can be written $${\vec y}''-B{\vec y}'-A\vec y=0.$$

Now all I was able to figure out from several papers is that it makes sense to define ##\vec u ={\vec y}'## to reduce the order of the differential equation. Doing so brings me to $$ { \vec u}'-B\vec u-A\vec y=0.$$

Now you can safely assume that the ##-A\vec y## term is confusing me. Without it I would find the eigenvalues and eigenvectors of a matrix B. With that term I have no idea!

The standard method is to re-write your system as
[tex]\vec{y}' = \vec{u}, \; \; \vec{u}' = A \vec{y} + B \vec{u}[/tex]
or
[tex]\frac{d}{dt}\pmatrix{y \\ u} = \pmatrix{0 & I \\ A & B} \pmatrix{y\\u}[/tex]
This is of the form ##\vec{z}' = {\mathbf M} \vec{z} ##.
 
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