Solve AgCl Solubility w/ Ksp & Kf: Find Min NH3 for 0.1 mol AgCl in 1L

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The discussion centers on calculating the minimum concentration of ammonia required to dissolve 0.1 moles of silver chloride (AgCl) in 1L of solution by forming the complex ion [Ag(NH3)2]+. The solubility product constant (Ksp) is given as 10^-10, and the formation constant (Kf) is 10^8. The initial calculation suggested a concentration of 1 mole of NH3, but the correct answer is 1.2 moles. The derivation involves using the equations for Ksp and Kf, considering the equilibrium concentrations of Ag+ and NH3.

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Homework Statement



What is the minimum quantity of ammonia which must be added to 1L of a solution in order to dissolve 0.1 mole silver chloride by forming [Ag(NH3)2]+.
Given Ksp- 10^-10 and Kf- 10^8


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The Attempt at a Solution



I used the equation (which I derived) s=c^2/(Ksp)(Kf) (assuming almost all amount of AgCl converts to complex and some other approximations)
where s is the solubility of AgCl and c is the concentration of NH3 (both in mol/litre)

I solved and got c as 1 mole.
But answer given is 1.2 mole.

Are my assumptions wrong, or there is some other thing?
 
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Show your derivation.
 
Let s be the solubility of AgCl in cM NH3. Let x mole/L be the amount of salt forming complex

At equilibrium.
Ag+ = s-x
ksp=(s-x)(s)
kf= x/(s-x)(c-2x)^2
Since kf is very high, x approaches s. Thus s-x would be very small. Let this value be y. Since x is small, 2x can be ignored w.r.t c.

i.e. c-2x = c
ksp=ys
kf=s^2/ksp(c)^2
i.e.
s=c x (ksp x kf)^1/2

Sorry, I wrote the earlier expression wrong.
 
You want x to be around 0.1M. It is not small.
 
Oops. Then that will make the calculations very lengthy.
Is there any method by which we solve this way and then add 0.2 mole by giving some reason?
 
What is [Cl-]?

What is maximum possible [Ag+]?

What is complex concentration?

Calculate ammonia concentration that fits.

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max [CL-] is 0.1
max [Ag+] is 10^-9

How to calculate ammonia concentratrion that fits?
 
What is complex concentration?

Look at Kf.
 
Complex concentration will be practically 0.1.
From this
[NH3]^2 = 0.1/(10^-9)(10^8)
I got [NH3] as 1M
not 1.2.
 

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