Solve Algebra Question: Projectile Fired at 30m/s, Angle 60°, 7.5s Later

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The problem involves a projectile fired at an initial speed of 30 m/s at a 60-degree angle, which impacts the ground after 7.5 seconds. Participants are discussing the calculations related to the projectile's vertical displacement and maximum height.

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  • Participants are attempting to use kinematic equations to find the vertical positions of the projectile at different times. There is a focus on isolating variables and performing algebraic manipulations to derive the correct values.

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Some participants have confirmed their calculations for the vertical displacements, while others express confusion about isolating variables and performing the necessary algebra. There is an ongoing exploration of the algebraic steps involved in reaching the correct answer.

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One participant mentions a test approaching, indicating a desire to improve mathematical skills. There are concerns about calculator usage and potential errors in calculations, which are being discussed among participants.

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Homework Statement


A projectile is fired with an initial speed of 30 m/s at an angle of 60 degrees above the horizontal. The object hits the ground 7.5 s later.
knowns: x0=y0=t0= 0, v0=30 m/s, t2= 7.5 s, angle= 60 degree, ay= -9.8 m/s, v1y=0, and v1x=v0x=v2x...find: y2-y0 y1-y0 and v2 angle



Homework Equations


1# vy2= y0 + v0y(t2-t0)+ 1/2ay(t2-t0)^2
2# v1y^2=v0y^2 + 2ay(y1-y0)



The Attempt at a Solution


I've found y2=-80.8 meters and am currently trying to figure out y1. I am using equation #2 and have this 0m/s^2= (30sin60m/s)^2 +2(-9.8m/s^2)(y1-0m) = y1= 34.4 m. I know the answer, but am having trouble isolating y1, i.e. not sure how to do the algebra. Everytime i attempt it, i get the wrong answer. any help will be appreciated, thanks.
 
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doucette1717 said:
1# vy2= y0 + v0y(t2-t0)+ 1/2ay(t2-t0)^2
2# v1y^2=v0y^2 + 2ay(y1-y0)

3. The Attempt at a Solution
I've found y2=-80.8 meters and am currently trying to figure out y1. I am using equation #2 and have this 0m/s^2= (30sin60m/s)^2 +2(-9.8m/s^2)(y1-0m) = y1= 34.4 m. I know the answer, but am having trouble isolating y1, i.e. not sure how to do the algebra. Everytime i attempt it, i get the wrong answer. any help will be appreciated, thanks.

Hi doucette1717! Welcome to PF! :smile:

(I assume y1 is the maximum height.)

Your y2 = -80.8 and y1 = 34.4 seem to be correct.

So I don't understand what answer you're not getting. :confused:

Show us the algebra you're having trouble with. :smile:
 
tiny-tim said:
Hi doucette1717! Welcome to PF! :smile:

(I assume y1 is the maximum height.)

Your y2 = -80.8 and y1 = 34.4 seem to be correct.

So I don't understand what answer you're not getting. :confused:

Show us the algebra you're having trouble with. :smile:


Well the problem is with this 0m/s^2= (30sin60m/s)^2 +2(-9.8m/s^2)(y1-0m) = y1= 34.4 m.
i was given the answer, i myself don't understand how to isolate y1 and do the math to get 34.4 m.
 
doucette1717 said:
Well the problem is with this 0m/s^2= (30sin60m/s)^2 +2(-9.8m/s^2)(y1-0m) = y1= 34.4 m.
i was given the answer, i myself don't understand how to isolate y1 and do the math to get 34.4 m.

oh I see …

well, you have 0 = (30sin60m/s)^2 +2(-9.8m/s^2)(y1-0m)

ie 0 = (30*0.866)² + 2*-9.8*y1,

so y1 = (30*0.866)²/2*9.8 = 34.4. :smile:

what was worrying you? :confused:
 
i have a test coming up soon. My math skills aren't the greatest. Just trying to improve them so i can do better on my test. Thanks.

update:
so i tried the calculation you gave me and i got 3307. m. I'm not sure what I am doing wrong either, i plugged those exact values right into my calculator.
 
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doucette1717 said:
i have a test coming up soon. My math skills aren't the greatest. Just trying to improve them so i can do better on my test. Thanks.

update:
so i tried the calculation you gave me and i got 3307. m. I'm not sure what I am doing wrong either, i plugged those exact values right into my calculator.

Hi doucette! :smile:

That's because you plugged in ((30*0.866)²/2)*9.8 instead of (30*0.866)²/2*9.8. :rolleyes:

Tip: If you're using a cacluator, it's easy to go wrong, so always check that the result is roughly correct …

in this case, you know it's roughly 30*30/2*10 = 45 … so 3307 is obviously about 100 time too much! :smile:

Another tip: if I'm using a calculator, I do the bottom line first, then I press "1/x", then I do the top line! :smile:
 

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