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The discussion focuses on solving the expected value E(min(X,100)) where X follows a Geometric distribution with parameter theta. The user initially attempts to express the expected value using summations but struggles with the correct formulation. Key insights include changing the index of summation and recognizing that for X=100, min(X,100) equals X. The final expression involves manipulating summations to derive the expected value, leading to a more refined formula that includes terms related to the geometric distribution.

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Homework Statement



Whats a hint to solve E(min(X,100)), when X~Geometric(theta)?

Homework Equations



geometric distribution where p is theta

The Attempt at a Solution


I got here

99
summation x*theta*(1-theta)^x
x=o

+

inf.
summation 100*theta*(1-theta)^100
x=100

But I don't know what to do now.
 
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Two suggestions:
1) Don't write your summations using x as the index of summation: if you wanted to compute E(X) you could write it as

<br /> \sum_{j=0}^\infty j \theta (1-\theta)^j<br />

Do something similar in your problem.

2) Informally, if X = 100 then it happens that \min(X, 100) = X,
so your first sum can extend to 100 and the second can start at 101.

Thus your expression can be written as

<br /> E[\min(X,100)] = \sum_{j=0}^{100} {j \, \theta (1-\theta)^j} + \sum_{j=101}^\infty {100 \, \theta (1-\theta)^j}<br />

What can you do with this?
 
for your second summation, why is it to the power of j, shouldn't it be to the power of 100, since its a constant probability when x>= 100?
 
sneaky666 said:
for your second summation, why is it to the power of j, shouldn't it be to the power of 100, since its a constant probability when x>= 100?


No - that's part of the reason I suggested changing the index of summation away from X. You use the distribution of X to calculate the expected value - the exponent in that distribution is not a constant. Perhaps it would help to think about the second sum as involving the expectation of a constant function with respect to the distribution of X.
 
ok, but what is the next step, how do i expand the summations?
 
Work on them and come back with what you tried.
 
so then the second summation can be changed to

theta(1-theta) * summation from k=100 to infinity of k(1-theta)^(k-1)
theta(1-theta) * summation from k=100 to infinity of (-d/d*theta)*(1-theta)^k
theta(1-theta) *(-d/d*theta)* summation from k=100 to infinity of (1-theta)^k
theta(1-theta) *(-d/d*theta)((1-theta)^100)/theta)
theta(1-theta) * (100theta(1-theta)^99 + (1-theta)^100)/theta^2
(1-theta) * (100theta(1-theta)^99 + (1-theta)^100)/theta
((1-theta)/theta) - (1-theta) * (100theta(1-theta)^99 + (1-theta)^100)/theta
this new term in the begginning is the expected value of a geometric distribution
((1-theta)(1-(1-theta)^100))/theta - (100theta(1-theta)^100) / theta
here i am stuck, i know this is not the answer but it is pretty close

so my last step is
99
summation ktheta(1-theta)^k
k=0
+
((1-theta)(1-(1-theta)^100))/theta
-
100(1-theta)^100

the answer i think is the middle term, but somehow i need to remove the first and third term...
 
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