Solve Elastic Collision Homework: Neutron Mass m0

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The problem involves an elastic collision between a neutron of mass m0 and an immobile carbon nucleus of mass m=12m0. The inquiry focuses on how many times the kinetic energy of the neutron decreases during this collision.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the relationships between the velocities and kinetic energies before and after the collision, with attempts to derive equations relating these quantities. There are questions regarding the sign of the initial velocity of the carbon nucleus and the implications of mass differences.

Discussion Status

Some participants have offered guidance on manipulating equations to explore the changes in kinetic energy, while others have raised questions about the assumptions made regarding the signs of velocities. There is an acknowledgment of differing interpretations regarding the setup of the problem.

Contextual Notes

There is a mention of the need to consider the direction of the velocities, as well as the implications of the kinetic energy equations being positive due to the squaring of velocities.

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Homework Statement


A neutron of mass m0 collides with an immobile atomic nucleus of carbon of mass m=12m0. Collision is considered central and elastic. how many times does the kinetic energy of neutron decreases during the collision.


Homework Equations


m=12m0

m0v0=mu-m0u

(m0v02)/2=(mu2)/2-(m0u02)/2

The Attempt at a Solution


v0= (mu-m0u0)/m0=
=(12m0u-m0u0)/m0=
=12u-u0

u=(v0+u0)/12
u2=(v02+2u0v0+u02)/144


v02=12u2-u02

u2=(v02+u02)/12

(v02+2u0v0+u02)/144=(v02+u02)/12

0=11u02-2u0v0+11v02)

I'm stuck here. I know tht I hv to find x=(u02)/(1v02) because (m0u02)/2=x(m0v02)/2
u02=xv02

(the answer is 1.4 times)
 
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Take this equation
v0 =12u+u0 and square it to get
v0^2 = 144u^2 + 24u0u + u0^2
You also have this equation
v0^2=12u^2 + u0^2
So equate those and that leads to
132 u = - 24u0

Substitute this into the first equation I wrote, to see the relative change in velocity, then square it for change in kinetic energy.
 
but m>m0. Shouldnt u0 be negative in both equ?
 
But it can be negative, you could solve these equations and get u0<0 which would indicate that it is traveling in the other direction.
 
In this equation tho you stated incorrectly.
(m0v02)/2=(mu2)/2-(m0u02)/2

Since velocity is squared kinetic energy is allows positive. So Kinetic energy before must equal sum of kinetic energies after the collision.
(m0v02)/2=(mu2)/2+(m0u02)/2
 
I agree with Mr.A.Gibson in all the above posts.
 
yea2, ur right! got it, thank u very much!
 

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