Double Ball Drop: Solve Elastic Collision Velocity Problem

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The discussion centers on solving the elastic collision velocity problem involving two balls of different masses dropped one on top of the other. The key equations used are the conservation of momentum and the conservation of energy, represented as (m + M)v = mv1 + Mv2. The participant, Gibanga, initially struggles with the assumption that mv1 = -(m+M)v + Mv2, leading to an incorrect relationship between v1 and v2. The resolution involves setting up two equations based on conservation laws to find the velocities after the collision.

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Homework Statement



Hi everyone. Hope I'm not breaking any forum rules, because I've alread wrote this one in another thread by mistake. Here is where it should be.

Two balls of different mass are dropped one in top of the other, with the light one on top. After they collide with the floor (elastic collision), what is the velocity of both balls?

m is the mass of the small ball
M is the mass of the heavier one
v is the velocity of both balls before the collision with the ground
v1 and v2 are the velocities of the lighter and heavier ball respectively.

Homework Equations



pi=pf

The Attempt at a Solution



(m + M)v = mv1 + Mv2

What do i assume now?

I first assumed that mv1 = -(m+M)v + Mv2
but it doesn't look right to me because v1 turns out 2v2.

What am i doing wrong?

Thanks in advance.
 
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tiny-tim said:
Hi Gibanga! Welcome to PF! :smile:


Hint: https://www.physicsforums.com/library.php?do=view_item&itemid=38" means that energy is conserved. :wink:

Thank you very much.

Linear momentum is also conserved.

So i get two equations and two unknowns and a very ugly quadratic equation jumps out of there. Should i solve it or am i wasting my time? This looks like a very simple problem and I'm just making it more complex...
 
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