Solve EM Radiation Homework: Compute E & B with Monochromatic Point Source

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The discussion revolves around a problem involving electromagnetic radiation from a monochromatic point source with a given power of 100W. The objective is to compute the electric field E(r) and magnetic field B(r), with the assumption that at large distances, the wave can be treated as a plane wave.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the implications of treating the wave as a plane wave at large distances and question the validity of certain expressions used in the calculations. There is discussion about the units of various terms and the distinction between energy density and energy flux.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively questioning assumptions and clarifying concepts related to the problem. Some have offered corrections to earlier statements regarding the expressions used, indicating a productive exchange of ideas. However, there is no explicit consensus on the correct approach yet.

Contextual Notes

There are indications of confusion regarding the units of certain expressions and the definitions of energy density versus energy flux, which may affect the calculations being discussed.

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Homework Statement


We are given monochromatic point source of EM radiation which power is P=100W. The task is to compute E(r) and B(r). We can assume that r is large enough to treat wave as a plane wave.


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First of all - what for do we assume that for big r it is plane wave?
My solution to this task is:

In a sphere of radius r and thickness dr there is an amount of energy W: [tex]W = P dt = \frac{1}{\epsilon \mu} EB 4 \pi r^2 dr[/tex]
Then [tex]P = \frac{1}{\epsilon \mu} EB 4 \pi r^2 c \iff EB = \ldots[/tex] and so on... I can easily calculate values of E and B but still - what for is the mentioned assumption?
 
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First, why is there a factor of [itex]1/\epsilon[/itex] in your expression? Do the units make sense?

If the fields aren't those of a plane wave, then the Poynting vector [itex]\textbf{S}=\frac{1}{\mu_0}\textbf{E}\times\textbf{B}[/itex] does not necessarily point in the radial direction and have magnitude [itex]EB[/itex]. The fields themselves could also depend on the polar and azimuthal angles,

[tex]\implies P(r)=\oint\textbf{S}\cdot d\textbf{a}=\int_0^{\pi}\int_0^{2\pi}\textbf{S}\cdot\hat{\textbf{r}}r^2\sin\theta d\theta d\phi\neq\frac{4\pi r^2}{\mu_0}EB[/tex]

in general.
 
Ok, thanks. I used [tex]\frac{1}{\mu \epsilon} EB[/tex] as an energy density not an energy flux.
 
qoqosz said:
Ok, thanks. I used [tex]\frac{1}{\mu \epsilon} EB[/tex] as an energy density not an energy flux.

But that doesn't even have units of energy density...
 
You're right - I made stupid mistake :( Should be: [tex]\frac{1}{\mu c} EB[/tex]
 

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