Solve explicitly integer solution

  • Thread starter Thread starter annoymage
  • Start date Start date
  • Tags Tags
    Integer
Join the discussion
Registration is free. Ask a follow-up in this thread, or start your own.
9 replies · 2K views
annoymage
Messages
360
Reaction score
0

Homework Statement



find p,q,r,s integer solution

[tex]\frac{1}{p^2}+\frac{1}{q^2}+\frac{1}{r^2}+\frac{1}{s^2}=1[/tex]

Homework Equations



here some alternate form you can see

http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=1/p^2%2B1/q^2%2B1/r^2%2B1/s^2%3D1

The Attempt at a Solution



i don't know if this works,

so i guess i have to show that [tex]p=q=r=s[/tex],

so now i only got this [tex]p|(qrs)^2\ \ ,\ q|(prs)^2\ \ ,\ r|(pqs)^2\ \ ,\ s|(pqr)^2[/tex], but i don't even know how to show [tex]p|q[/tex]

help T_T
 
Physics news on Phys.org
You should just do a size comparison

One side is: Can any of p, q r or s be equal to 1?

And then the flip side: What happens if p is a large integer (how are the possible sizes for q, r and s restricted)
 
Office_Shredder said:
One side is: Can any of p, q r or s be equal to 1?

it can't, i'll show to you to check my proof of this later

Office_Shredder said:
And then the flip side: What happens if p is a large integer (how are the possible sizes for q, r and s restricted)

hmm, do you mean p>2??

if yes, i only get [tex]\frac{1}{q^2}+\frac{1}{r^2}+\frac{1}{s^2} < \frac{1}{2}[/tex] how to get restriction on p,q,r?
 
If p>2, you should get the inequality [tex]\frac{1}{q^2}+\frac{1}{r^2}+\frac{1}{s^2}>\frac{3}{4}[/tex]
 
yeaa that's true, maybe i don't understand the flip flip side thing. very sleepy, i'll try understand it tomorrow. anyway, what should i do next?

assume some more what happen if q>2 ??
 
Well, if none of q,r and s are 1, what's the largest [tex]\frac{1}{q^2} + \frac{1}{r^2}+\frac{1}{s^2}[/tex] can be?
 
sorry i still don't get it

hmm, i guess there's nothing to do with post 3 and 4,

this is what i understand p,q,r,s can't be 1

if p>1 then largest [tex]\frac{1}{q^2} + \frac{1}{r^2}+\frac{1}{s^2}[/tex] is 3/4

then? ;P
 
Use what's in post number 4 (which you should work on solving for: why don't you post your attempt at it?)
 
aahhh, maybe i see now,

so p=q=r=s=2 is a solution.

so that we goin through is showing that p not equal 2 in Z+ is not a solution.

also i have to repeat for q,r and s right?
 
If there is a solution for which q (or r or s) is not equal to 2, you should be able to prove in a line or two that a solution exists for which p is not equal to 2 (which gives a contradiction of course)