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The discussion revolves around the evaluation of the integral \(\int \exp(iab/c) \exp(-iaz) \, da\) from 0 to infinity. Participants explore various conditions and assumptions regarding the parameters involved, including whether they are real or complex, and the implications for convergence and the value of the integral.

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  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses uncertainty about how to proceed with the integration, indicating a self-learning context.
  • Another participant suggests that the integral may not be solvable without specific conditions on the parameters b, c, and z, noting potential issues with limits at infinity for trigonometric functions.
  • A different viewpoint claims the integral evaluates to zero by consolidating the integrand and arguing that the areas under the sine and cosine functions cancel out over their cycles.
  • Further clarification is provided regarding the conditions under which the integral converges, particularly if z is complex and y is negative.
  • Another participant reformulates the integral using a new variable k and discusses the conditions for convergence, emphasizing the need for the real part of k to be negative.
  • One participant acknowledges a mistake in their previous response regarding the integral's value and convergence conditions, reiterating the importance of the parameters being real or complex.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the solvability and value of the integral, with no consensus reached on the correct approach or final answer. Multiple competing models and interpretations of the parameters are presented.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include the lack of clarity on whether the coefficients b, c, and z are real or complex, which affects the convergence and evaluation of the integral. There are also unresolved mathematical steps regarding the conditions for convergence.

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Hi i was wondering if anyone could help me with a fairly simple integration.

[tex]\int exp(iab/c)exp(-iaz) da[/tex]

Where the integral is from 0 to infinity

Im not sure how to proceed with this and am basically teaching myself
Thanks in advance for any help.
 
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Do you have any conditions on b,c, and z? This integral is not going to be solvable as far as I can tell. Remember, [tex]e^{ix} = cos(x) + isin(x)[/tex] and you'll end up trying to take a limit at infinity which does not exist for cosines and sines.
 
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I say the answer is 0
First consolidate the integrand to exp(iaK) where K = (b/c) - z, then expand the exponential to cos(aK) +i*sin(aK)
then [tex] \int cos(aK) da + i\int sin(aK) da = 0[/tex]
since integrating a sine or cosine gives zero, since there are equal positive and negative areas for every cycle.
 
ACPower said:
since integrating a sine or cosine gives zero, since there are equal positive and negative areas for every cycle.

unless the limit is at infinity, which means the limit is not defined.
 
In the wording of the problem, Skullmonkee forgot to specify if the coefficients b, c, z are real or complex.
Suppose b, c real and z complex. If z=x+i y , with x , y real and y<0
then, the integral (from 0 to infinity) is convergent = 1/(-y+i(x-b))
 
The correct answer follows:

Let [itex]k = i(b/c-z)[/itex]. Then the integral is the same as
[tex]\int_0^\infty \exp(ka) \;da[/tex]
which converges precisely when [itex]\operatorname{Re}(k) < 0[/itex]. In this case, the value of the integral is
[tex]\frac{1}{k} \exp(ka) \biggr|_{a=0}^\infty = -\frac{1}{k} = \frac{i}{b/c-z}.[/tex]

Pengwuino and ACPower assume that [itex]b/c - z[/itex] is real, but if that is not the case, the integrand may not be purely sinusoidal (that is, [itex]k[/itex] above may have nonzero real part). JJacquelin gives an incorrect value for the integral (there is a missing c).
 
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JJacquelin gives an incorrect value for the integral (there is a missing c), as well as incorrect conditions for convergence.
Adriank is right, I forgot c in my equation. Thanks for bringing the mistake to our attention.
If b and c are real and z complex ( i.e.: z=x+i y , with x and y real), the condition of convergence is y<0 as already said.
Of course, if all b, c, z are complex a more general condition has to be derived from :
[Real part of i((b/c)-z)] < 0
 

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