Solve Extrema Math Problem: Find & Classify Critical Points

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The discussion revolves around finding and classifying critical points of the function f(x, y) = e^x(1 - cos y). Participants are exploring the necessary steps to identify critical points and their classifications based on the function's behavior.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the need to find partial derivatives and set them to zero to identify critical points. There is an exploration of the implications of the derived conditions, particularly regarding the values of y that satisfy these equations. Questions arise about the classification of critical points based on second derivatives.

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The discussion is active, with participants providing guidance on initial steps and suggesting visualization techniques. There is acknowledgment of the complexity of the problem, and some participants express uncertainty about the classification of the critical points.

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Participants note that this is a homework problem, and there are mentions of formatting issues with the mathematical expressions that may hinder clarity.

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tough one
find all critical points of
f(x, y)=e^x(1-cos y)

and classify these critical points.
 
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For a critical point to occur, both partial derivatives must be equal to zero at that point. So the first steps would be to find the partial derivatives, and then to solve them for zero. Try that first.
 
\\f(x,y) = e^x(1-\cos y)
\\
\\\frac{\partial f}{\partial x} = e^x(1-\cos y),\ \ \frac{\partial f}{\partial y} = e^x\sin y
\\
\\ e^x(1-\cos y) = 0
\\ \cos y = 1
\\ y = 2k\pi,\ k\in\mathbb{Z}
\\
\\ e^x\sin y = 0
\\ \sin y = 0
\\ y = k\pi,\ k\in\mathbb{Z}
\\
\\\mbox{critical points along the lines }\ y = 2k\pi,\ k\in\mathbb{Z}
\\\mbox{which coincidentaly, is also the lines at which f(x,y) = 0}
\\
is this right
 
You forgot the actual LaTeX tags lol! Thats kind of hard to read right now, can u put them in? [ tex ] and [ /tex ] without the spaces in between.
 
don't worry i can't work out how to use this thing bit complex anyways I am pretty sure it's right i just don't know how to classify the critical points. All the critical points of the function have positive second partial derivative in y, and zero second partial derivative in x, and zero second partial derivative in x and y. what kind of classification is given to that?
 
Try graphing it to visualize it a bit. Remember that its either only: a maxima, minima or a saddle point.
 
How about, instead of using formulas you think about what ex(1- cos(y)) looks like in the vicinity of a point y= 2k[itex]\pi[/itex]? In particlar, what does 1- cos(y) look like there?

I also want to point out that
1) this is clearly homework
2) you showed NO attempt to do this in your original post.
 

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