Solve for Frequency and Velocity in a Uniform Tube with Open Ends

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The problem involves a uniform tube with open ends and its resonance characteristics when partially submerged in water. The original poster seeks to determine the lowest frequency at which the tube will resonate when open at both ends, given specific lengths of the tube above water and a known frequency of a vibrating fork.

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  • Participants discuss the relationship between tube length and harmonic frequencies, suggesting that the difference in lengths corresponds to half a wavelength. There are questions about how to derive the velocity from the equations presented by the original poster.

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Some participants have offered guidance on visualizing the problem through diagrams and have referenced the concept of end-correction in relation to the tube's resonance. There is an ongoing exploration of the relationship between harmonics and the corresponding frequencies, with no explicit consensus on the final answer yet.

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Participants note the importance of considering end-correction in the calculations, as well as the distinction between the fundamental frequency and higher harmonics in the context of the tube's resonance.

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A uniform tube, 60.0cm long, stands vertically with its lower end dipping into water. When the length above water is 14.8cm, and again when it is 48.0cm. the tube resounds to a vibrating fork of frequency 512Hz. Find the lowest frequency to which the tube will resound when it is open at both ends


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When the tube is open at both end, the fundamental frequency f1 is given by:
f1=v/(2x0.6)
From the given condition
512 = (2n1-1)v/(4x0.148)
512 = (2n2-1)v/(4x0.48)

How can I find the velocity from the abve two equations?
 
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These problems can be a lot easier if you draw a diagram of tube resonance (using transverse waves, nearly all textbooks do this). If you keep the medium and frequency the same, and increase the length of the tube, you will see that the difference in tube length between any two successive harmonics is half a wavelength. This is true for open and closed tubes.
 


As Chi Meson stated "difference in tube length between any two successive harmonics is half a wavelength", using this u can easily find the wavelength and then u can find velocity. U will find that the lowest frequency for the tube will be in the second harmonic.
 


Btw is the answer 566.7 Hz ??
 


Swap said:
As Chi Meson stated "difference in tube length between any two successive harmonics is half a wavelength", using this u can easily find the wavelength and then u can find velocity. U will find that the lowest frequency for the tube will be in the second harmonic.

The lowest frequency will be the fundamental, or first harmonic.

The data for the closed-end tube is taking the "end-correction" into account. The length of the tube for the first harmonic should be 1/4 wavelength, and ideally this should be the same as half the difference of the tube lengths as mentioned above. These numbers are not the same because the point of reflection is actually some distance beyond the tube end. Ths distance is determined by the geometry and width/diameter of the tube.

I would apply the end-correction to both ends of the open tube to determine the fundamental wavelength that resonates in it.
 

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