Solve for I1, I2, I3 in Circuit w/ Loop Rule

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The problem involves analyzing a circuit with three resistors and three ideal batteries, requiring the calculation of currents I1, I2, and I3 through the resistors using the loop rule and given equations.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss setting up a system of equations based on the loop rule and the relationships between the currents. There is mention of manipulating equations to reduce unknowns and the potential use of Gaussian elimination for solving the linear system.

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The discussion has progressed with participants exploring different methods to set up and solve the equations. One participant has successfully reached a solution using matrices, while others have contributed by clarifying the equations and discussing the setup process.

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Participants are working within the constraints of the problem as presented, focusing on the relationships between the currents and the voltages in the circuit. There is an emphasis on the algebraic manipulation of the equations without providing a direct solution initially.

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Homework Statement


In the problem there's a circuit pictured with 3 resistors and three ideal batteries (emf = V). I need to calculate the current through all the resistors (I1,I2,I3).
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Homework Equations


I1 - I2 + I3 = 0
V=RI

The Attempt at a Solution


left loop is 92V - 140*I1 - 210*I2 + 55 = 0
right loop is 51V -35*I3 - 210*I2 + 55v = 0

147V - 140*I - 210*I2 = 0
112V - 210*I2 - 35*I3 = 0

How do I solve for I1, I2, I3?
 
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You have three linear equations and three variables, so you just solve them the same way you would any other linear system. There aren't any rules that you have to follow; you just try to manipulate the equations to reduce the number of unknowns, hopefully reaching 1 after you've incorporated all the equations.

If you want a more mechanical but generally more tedious way of solving linear systems, try Gaussian elimination.
 
I know this is algebra but how do I set up a system of equations with only the two equations:
147V - 140*I1 - 210*I2 = 0
112V - 210*I2 - 35*I3 = 0
 
You've already established a third equation, namely I1 - I2 + I3 = 0
 
Never mind, I got it with matrices.

I1 - I2 + I3 = 0
140*I1 + 210*I2 + 0*I3 = 147
0*I1 + 210*I2 + 35*I3 = 112

matrix:
[ 1 -1 1 0 ]
[ 140 210 0 147 ]
[ 0 210 35 112 ]

row reduced echelon form
[ 1 0 0 .3 ]
[ 0 1 0 .5 ]
[ 0 0 1 .2 ]

answer:
I1 = 0.300 Amps
I2 = 0.500 Amps
I3 = 0.200 Amps

Thanks for the help though.
 

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