Solve for y: X=e^yEquation Solution

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around the equation X = e^y, with participants exploring how to isolate y. The subject area includes exponential functions and logarithmic properties.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss taking the natural logarithm of both sides and question the implications of this step. There are attempts to clarify the relationship between logarithms and the exponential function, particularly regarding the natural logarithm of e.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with various interpretations and attempts to derive y from the original equation. Some participants express confusion and seek guidance, while others provide insights into the properties of logarithms. There is no explicit consensus on the correct approach or solution yet.

Contextual Notes

Participants are navigating forum rules that prohibit providing complete solutions, which influences the nature of the responses. There is also mention of potential confusion regarding the original equation and its manipulation.

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Homework Statement


X=e^y i just need to do that i think this is maybe log but i don't know[/B]

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Mrencko said:

Homework Statement


X=e^y i just need to do that i think this is maybe log but i don't know[/B]

Homework Equations

The Attempt at a Solution

Show us what happens if you take the natural logarithm of both sides.
 
Log(x) =ylog(e)?
 
Mrencko said:
Log(x) =ylog(e)?

But what is the natural log of e? Think about what a natural logarithm is, and how it's defined.
 
Its one, can you apoint me to the solution i am lost
 
I found the solution y=-log(x)
 
Mrencko said:
I found the solution y=-log(x)
Sorry its y=-lnx
 
Mrencko said:
I found the solution y=-log(x)
Mrencko said:
Sorry its y=-lnx
Neither one of these is correct. Please show what you did to get your last equation.
 
  • #10
X=e^-y then lnx=-ylne then (lnx=-y)-1... Then (y=-lnx) or y=ln(1/x)
 
  • #11
Mrencko said:
X=e^-y then lnx=-ylne then (lnx=-y)-1... Then (y=-lnx) or y=ln(1/x)

Your original post had the equation x=e^y rather than x=e^-y. Which problem are you doing? The solution you have here is correct for x=e^-y except I'm not sure why you have a -1 in the 3rd equation which disappears in later equations yielding the correct answer.
 
  • #12
Mrencko said:
Its one, can you apoint me to the solution i am lost

If log (e) = 1, then what is y log (e)?
 
  • #13
Sorry i forgot the - and the-1 its just to change the - x to x and i was wrong whit log its ln
 
  • #14
If the original equation was supposed to be x = e-y, then the equivalent equation is y = -ln(x). By "equivalent" I mean that every ordered pair (x, y) that satisfies the first equation also satisfies the second equation.
 
  • #15
Yes thanks dude, i really apreciate the help
 

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