Solve Force Problem: Tension of Wires Holding 20.0 kg Object

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The problem involves a 20.0 kg object suspended from a hook by two wires, which are positioned at angles of 25 degrees and 50 degrees relative to a horizontal cross bar. The discussion centers around determining the tension in each wire while considering the forces acting on the object.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants suggest starting with a Free-Body Diagram (FBD) to analyze the forces. There is a focus on balancing forces in both horizontal and vertical directions, with discussions about the relevance of normal forces and the correct setup of equations for tension.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing guidance on how to approach the problem without giving complete solutions. There is an emphasis on understanding the setup of equations and the reasoning behind them, while also addressing concerns about providing too much direct assistance.

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Participants are navigating the constraints of homework guidelines, particularly the expectation to develop understanding rather than receive direct answers. There is a concern about the potential for copying solutions rather than engaging with the material.

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An object of mass 20.0 kg hangs suspended from a hook that is attached to two wires. The wires are attached to a horizontal cross bar and make angles with it that open up to 25 degrees and 50 degrees. What is the tension on each wire?
 
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Start with a Free-Body-Diagram.
 
force body diagram.GIF


Here is the force body diagram as complete as I could make it. I do not know how to figure out what any of the other forces are.
 
I can't see it until its approved, Just describe what you drew.
 
start with components. The box is at equilibrium, so the sum of all the forces = 0 in each direction.

y comp = sin(theta)
x comp = cos(theta)
 
Well, its a little odd to put that normal force there in your problem. What you really have is just two tensile forces acting up along the axis of the two cables. So, 2 tensile forces, and erase that normal force.
 
There will be no normal force.
Now balance the forces in horizontal and vertical direction.
Suppose Tension is T1 in first wire and T2 in second wire
T1 cos(50) = T2 cos(25)
T1 sin(50) + T2 sin(25) = Mg

Now try to solve.

enjoy
 
Please don't give him completed solutions anymore...

can you delete that post.
 
I haven't given complete solution...and I am sure he would have done the same
 
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At least let I am learn how to set up the equations so that he has some understanding of why he's using them. Certainly you can see my point. He is still trying to develop an understanding of forces. Thats why I told him to start off with a FBD and work one step at a time to build some knowledge.
 
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okay ...I think he will not copy the equation...but will try to understand how to write equations...
 

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