Solve Homework Questions on Point Sources & Mirrors

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The discussion revolves around problems related to point sources of light and mirrors, specifically focusing on light intensity, mirror height for full image reflection, and object positioning for concave mirrors. Participants are exploring concepts in optics and geometry.

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  • Participants discuss the equations related to light intensity and the implications of distances and intensities for point sources. There is an exploration of how to determine the minimum height of a mirror for full image visibility and the conditions for image magnification with concave mirrors. Some participants express uncertainty about the application of formulas and the interpretation of results.

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Some participants have made attempts to solve the problems and have shared their reasoning, while others have found relevant equations and clarified their understanding. There is a mix of ongoing exploration and resolution, with some participants indicating they no longer need assistance after finding correct answers.

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Participants mention constraints such as the requirement for exact answers within a specific tolerance and the challenge of scaling diagrams accurately for the mirror problem. There is also a discussion about the relationship between object distance and image size in the context of concave mirrors.

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Homework Statement



1) A 24 cd point source lamp and a 73 cd point source lamp cast equal illuminances on a wall. If the 24 cd lamp is 6.3m from the wall, how far from the wall is the 73 cd lamp? Answer in units of m.

2) Two lamps illuminate a screen equally. The first lamp has an intensity of 100 cd and is 6.7m from the screen. The second lamp is 7.7 m from the screen. What is the intensity of the second lamp? Answer in units of cd.

3) Determine the minimum height of a vertical flat mirror in which a person 67 in. in height can see his full image. Answer in units of in. (Hint: draw a ray diagram)

4)A concave mirror has a focal length of 24.8cm. Determin the object position for which the resulting image is upright and 4 times the size of the object. Answer in units of cm.

Homework Equations



Focal length= \frac{Radius}{2}

\frac{1}{focal length} = \frac{1}{distance of object} + \frac{1}{distance of image}

magnification = \frac{-distance of image}{distance of object} = \frac{height of image}{height of object}

The Attempt at a Solution



My teacher told us we wouldn't need to know the equations for light intensity, so I have no idea how to solve 1&2.

3) I drew the ray diagram like it said and found the area of mirror needed to see the image. But obviously it's not to scale, and I doubt I could measure it and scale it well enough to get an accurate answer, because the system we use to turn in homework likes exact answers that are at most +/-1% off.

4)I tried using this \frac{1}{focal length}=\frac{1}{distance of object}+\frac{1}{distance of image}

I knew that the distance of the image was 4 times the size of the object so i substituted distance of image with 4(distance of object). Crunching the numbers I got 31, which doesn't make sense because if the object is outside the focal point of a concave mirror, then the image will appear smaller, not larger. I think I messed up because it says the size is 4 times larger, which probably means height, not distance. But, I'm not sure what to do.
 
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I found the equations for 1&2, so I don't need help with those anymore.
 
Andy111 said:

Homework Statement



1) A 24 cd point source lamp and a 73 cd point source lamp cast equal illuminances on a wall. If the 24 cd lamp is 6.3m from the wall, how far from the wall is the 73 cd lamp? Answer in units of m.

2) Two lamps illuminate a screen equally. The first lamp has an intensity of 100 cd and is 6.7m from the screen. The second lamp is 7.7 m from the screen. What is the intensity of the second lamp? Answer in units of cd.

3) Determine the minimum height of a vertical flat mirror in which a person 67 in. in height can see his full image. Answer in units of in. (Hint: draw a ray diagram)

4)A concave mirror has a focal length of 24.8cm. Determin the object position for which the resulting image is upright and 4 times the size of the object. Answer in units of cm.

Homework Equations



Focal length= \frac{Radius}{2}

\frac{1}{focal length} = \frac{1}{distance of object} + \frac{1}{distance of image}

magnification = \frac{-distance of image}{distance of object} = \frac{height of image}{height of object}

The Attempt at a Solution



My teacher told us we wouldn't need to know the equations for light intensity, so I have no idea how to solve 1&2.

3) I drew the ray diagram like it said and found the area of mirror needed to see the image. But obviously it's not to scale, and I doubt I could measure it and scale it well enough to get an accurate answer, because the system we use to turn in homework likes exact answers that are at most +/-1% off.

4)I tried using this \frac{1}{focal length}=\frac{1}{distance of object}+\frac{1}{distance of image}

I knew that the distance of the image was 4 times the size of the object so i substituted distance of image with 4(distance of object). Crunching the numbers I got 31, which doesn't make sense because if the object is outside the focal point of a concave mirror, then the image will appear smaller, not larger. I think I messed up because it says the size is 4 times larger, which probably means height, not distance. But, I'm not sure what to do.

4. The magnification is related to heights and distances by:

<br /> M = \frac{h_i}{h_o}= \frac{-q}{p}<br />

where p is the object distance and q is the image distance. So here when you substitute you will have a minus sign (since the image is upright).
 
Thankyou so much. I got 18.6 substituting with -4 instead of 4, which was correct. I also got the 3rd question right. So I don't need any more help now.
 

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