Solve Homogeneous DE Easier: Better Substitution?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around finding a suitable substitution to simplify the solution of the homogeneous differential equation given by y' = y / (x + y^2). Participants explore various substitution methods and their effectiveness in solving the equation.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Debate/contested, Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests the substitution u = y^2, claiming it leads to a homogeneous differential equation that can be easily solved.
  • Another participant proposes the substitution V = y/x, but expresses that it may be lengthy.
  • A later reply indicates that the substitution u = y^{-2} is the easiest option, implying that other substitutions may complicate the process.
  • Another participant introduces the substitution u = y^2 + x, although they admit to not having tried it yet.
  • One participant presents an alternative solution method that does not involve any substitution, detailing a rearrangement of the original equation and leading to a quadratic form for y(x).

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing opinions on the best substitution to use, with no consensus reached on a single preferred method. Some argue for specific substitutions while others suggest alternative approaches, indicating a range of competing views.

Contextual Notes

Some substitutions may depend on specific assumptions or definitions that are not fully explored in the discussion. The effectiveness of each proposed method remains uncertain, as participants have not tested all suggestions.

Who May Find This Useful

Readers interested in solving homogeneous differential equations, exploring substitution methods, or seeking alternative solution techniques may find this discussion relevant.

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Given y' = y / (x + y^2), the substitution u = y^2 will give a homogeneous DE which can then be easily solved. Is there a substitution which would make things easier?
 
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Try V=y/x

But it is kinda long in my opinion.


EDIT: The easiest way is your substitution of [itex]u=y^{-2}[/itex], anything else, is just harder.
 
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I think the substitution u = y^2 + x is better. I haven't tried it though.
 
There is a solution that does not involve a substitution... if that's any help...

First, multiply through by [tex]x + y^2[/tex], to get

[tex]x y^{\prime} + y^2 y^{\prime} = y[/tex]

rearrange to get

[tex]x y^{\prime} - y = -y^2 y^{\prime}[/tex]

but

[tex]x y^{\prime} - y = y^2 ( \phi - \frac{x}{y})^{\prime}[/tex]

(where [tex]\phi[/tex] is a constant.) So,

[tex]( \phi - \frac{x}{y})^{\prime} = -y^{\prime}[/tex]

which you can integrate to get

[tex]\phi - \frac{x}{y} = - y[/tex]

which you can turn into a quadratic by multiplying through by [tex]y[/tex], leaving you with.

[tex]y(x) = \frac{-\phi \pm \sqrt{\phi^2 + 4x}}{2}[/tex]
 

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