Solve Integration Problem With u-Substitution

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around an integration problem involving the use of u-substitution. Participants are attempting to solve the integral of the function x(x-1)^3 and are sharing their approaches, corrections, and alternative methods.

Discussion Character

  • Homework-related
  • Mathematical reasoning
  • Technical explanation

Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents their attempt at solving the integral using u-substitution, defining u as x-1 and expressing confusion over their final result.
  • Another participant points out that the original poster must substitute every instance of x in the expression, indicating a misunderstanding in their approach.
  • A different participant suggests an alternative method by expanding the expression (x-1)^3 before integrating, arguing that this might simplify the process without needing u-substitution.
  • One participant reminds others not to forget the constant of integration, highlighting an important aspect of integration that may have been overlooked.
  • Another participant introduces a separate topic regarding the integration of Planck's law and its relation to the Stefan-Boltzmann constant, indicating a shift in focus from the original problem.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the method of integration, with some advocating for u-substitution while others propose expanding the expression. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the best approach to take.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations in the original poster's approach, particularly in the substitution process. Additionally, the introduction of a different topic regarding Planck's law may distract from the main focus of the integration problem.

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Hello, I am trying to integrate the following using "u-substitution", however I am not getting the correct result. Can someone please advise where I am going wrong.
The following is my attempt:

x(x-1)^3

u = x-1

du/dx = 1
du/1 = dx

x(u)^4 / 4

My final (incorrect) answer.
x(x-1)^4 / 4
 
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hello fran1942! :smile:

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fran1942 said:
x(u)^4 / 4

no, you must substitute every x …

you can't end up with something that still has an x in it!:wink:
 
You should rewrite the equation. If you foil out the (x-1)3 to x3-3x2+3x-1 then multiply by the x to get x4-3x3+3x2-x I think you will have an easier time integrating and without using a u-sub.
 
Don't forget the constant of integration!
 
we cannot seem to integrate Plancks law to show that stefans Boltzmann constant is 5.67x10^-8
 

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