Solve k^2-1=a^2+b^2: Find Positive Ints

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The discussion revolves around the equation k2-1=a2+b2 and whether there exist positive integer solutions for k, a, and b. Participants explore the existence of infinite solutions and related mathematical properties.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant asks if there are positive integers k, a, and b that satisfy the equation k2-1=a2+b2.
  • Another participant provides an example of k=9, a=4, and b=8 as a solution.
  • A participant inquires about proving the existence of infinite solutions to the equation.
  • One proposed solution involves manipulating the equation to express k and a in terms of b, suggesting that if b is even, then b2+1 is odd, leading to infinite solutions.
  • Another participant references Orthodontist's solution as being part of the infinite solutions discussed.
  • A participant introduces a related case involving k2=a2+b2+c2 and questions the comparison between the number of Pythagorean triplets and the proposed "quadruplets."
  • One participant asserts that both sets (Pythagorean triplets and the solutions to the original equation) are countably infinite and claims this has been established in the thread.
  • A repeated solution is presented, emphasizing the conditions under which b should be even and questioning the rationale behind this choice.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the necessity of b being even and the implications of this choice. While some assert the existence of infinite solutions, the discussion remains unresolved regarding the specifics of the proof and the comparison of different mathematical constructs.

Contextual Notes

Some assumptions regarding the properties of even and odd integers, as well as the nature of prime numbers, are not fully explored. The discussion also touches on related mathematical concepts without reaching a consensus on their relationships.

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are there any positive integers k,a, b such that this equation is satisfied:

k^2-1=a^2+b^2
 
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Yes, for example k = 9, a = 4, b = 8.
 
thanks, how do i go about proving that infinite solutions exist?
 
The solution

Here's the solution.
We have:
k^2-a^2=b^2-1
(k+a)(k-a)=b^2+1

Then choose b such that b is even.
This implies b^2+1 is odd. If b^2+1 is a prime, then put k+a=b^2+1 and k-a=1. You will get k&a. If b^2+1 is not a prime, then choose k+a and k-a as its two odd factors. Solving, you get k & a.
As there is solution for all b>0 and b even, there are infinitely many solutions.
 
You can see that Orthodontist's solution is also one of these.
 
the case with 1 is a special case of
k^2=a^2+b^2+c^2
a good question that might arose from this is what number is greater: the number of pythogrean triplets or the above qudroplets?
 
neither, they are both the same (countably infinite); it is not a difficulct question, and has indeed already been answered in this thread where it is asserted that there are infinitely many solutions to

k^2-1=a^2+b^2
 
Aditya89 said:
Here's the solution.
We have:
k^2-a^2=b^2-1
(k+a)(k-a)=b^2+1

Then choose b such that b is even.
This implies b^2+1 is odd. If b^2+1 is a prime, then put k+a=b^2+1 and k-a=1. You will get k&a. If b^2+1 is not a prime, then choose k+a and k-a as its two odd factors. Solving, you get k & a.
As there is solution for all b>0 and b even, there are infinitely many solutions.

why should [itex]b[/itex] be even?
 

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