Solve Limit at Infinity Problem: Tips & Help

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around solving a limit problem as \( n \) approaches infinity, specifically focusing on the expression $$\lim_{n\to \infty}\left(1+\frac{3n-1}{n^2+1}\right)^{2n+3}.$$ Participants seek tips and share their approaches to reach a solution, exploring various mathematical techniques and reasoning.

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  • Mathematical reasoning
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant requests tips for solving the limit problem without expecting a complete solution.
  • Another participant questions the role of \( 2n+3 \) in the limit and suggests a specific form for the limit expression.
  • Some participants propose rewriting the exponent and breaking the limit into two parts, leading to a conclusion of \( e^6 \) for one part and \( 1 \) for the other.
  • One participant describes their method of dividing terms by \( n \) and arriving at \( e^6 \), while expressing uncertainty about the validity of their approach.
  • Another participant expresses confusion about how the limit of the second factor is determined to be \( 1 \), prompting further clarification.
  • Several participants share their results and methods, with one noting that their teacher deemed their approach incorrect despite arriving at the same result.
  • There is a discussion about the mathematical validity of dividing terms and how that leads to the limit solution.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the validity of various approaches to solving the limit problem. While some arrive at the same result of \( e^6 \), there is no consensus on the correctness of the methods used to reach that conclusion.

Contextual Notes

Some participants mention specific steps and manipulations of the limit expression, but there are unresolved questions regarding the mathematical justification of these steps and the assumptions made in the process.

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Hi, I've been doing limit problems, and just got to this problem and I can't solve it. I would love some tips; you don't have to solve my problem.
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What is the $2n+3$ doing? Your formatting is a bit weird. Is the limit
$$\lim_{n\to \infty}\left(1+\frac{3n-1}{n^2+1}\right)^{\!\!2n+3}?$$
 
Im supposed to get it to this lim(1+1/n)^n=e
 
I suggest the following:

Rewrite the exponent $2n+3$ as follows
$$\frac{(2n+3)(3n-1)}{3n-1} = \frac{6n^2+7n-3}{3n-1} = \frac{6(n^2+1)}{3n-1}+\frac{7n-9}{3n-1}$$

Then we can write the limit as
$$\displaystyle \left[\lim_{n \to \infty} \left(1+\frac{1}{\frac{n^2+1}{3n-1}}\right)^{\frac{6(n^2+1)}{3n-1}}\right]\left[\lim_{n \to \infty} \left(1+\frac{1}{\frac{n^2+1}{3n-1}}\right)^{\frac{7n-9}{3n-1}}\right]$$

The left limit is equal to $e^6$, the right limit is equal to $1$. Hence the solution is $e^6$.
 
I solved it by dividing fraction by n and got 3/n and then just did some standard work and got e6
 
Siron said:
$$\displaystyle \left[\lim_{n \to \infty} \left(1+\frac{1}{\frac{n^2+1}{3n-1}}\right)^{\frac{6(n^2+1)}{3n-1}}\right]\left[\lim_{n \to \infty} \left(1+\frac{1}{\frac{n^2+1}{3n-1}}\right)^{\frac{7n-9}{3n-1}}\right]$$

The left limit is equal to $e^6$, the right limit is equal to $1$. Hence the solution is $e^6$.
In regard to the second factor, I can intuitively understand what you did, but Mathematically I am lost. How did you know the limit of the second factor is 1?

-Dan
 
topsquark said:
In regard to the second factor, I can intuitively understand what you did, but Mathematically I am lost. How did you know the limit of the second factor is 1?

-Dan

As $n\to\infty$, the base goes to $1$ and the exponent goes to a finite value (7/3) so we have a determinate form of $1$. :D
 
Ah! The little details! Thanks. :)

-Dan
 
Hey I solved this on my way and today I showed it to my teacher and she said it isn't right way to solve it even I got the same result
I divided 3n-1/n^2+1 with n so I got 3/n and I wrote it as 1/n/3 and put that n/3=t where n=3t and I got in exponent 6t+3 and got that e^6.
 
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Alexstrasuz said:
Hey I solved this on my way and today I showed it to my teacher and she said it isn't right way to solve it even I got the same result
I divided 3n-1/n^2+1 with n so I got 3/n and I wrote it as 1/n/3 and put that n/3=t where n=3t and I got in exponent 6t+3 and got that e^6.

If I understand you correctly, you mean:
$$\frac{3n-1}{n^2+1} \frac{1}{n} = \frac{3}{n}?$$
The only thing you could do is to divide the numerator and denominator by $n$ but I don't see how that could lead to a solution.
 

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