Solve Math: Step-by-Step Guide to Finding y = cx^2

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The discussion revolves around solving the differential equation \(\frac{dy}{dx} = \frac{2y}{x}\) and understanding how to arrive at the solution \(y = cx^2\). The subject area is differential equations and integration techniques.

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  • Participants discuss the process of separating variables and integrating both sides of the equation. Questions arise about the correct integration approach and the properties of logarithms. There is also a focus on how to combine constants after integration.

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The discussion is active, with participants providing guidance on integration steps and questioning assumptions about the integration process. Some participants suggest combining constants and using properties of logarithms to simplify the equation, while others seek clarification on these points.

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There are indications of typos and misunderstandings regarding the integration variable, which are being addressed in the conversation. Participants are exploring the implications of these errors on the final solution.

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Can anyone walk me through solving this?

[tex]\frac{dy}{dx} = \frac{2y}{x}[/tex]
separate veriables...
[tex]\frac{dy}{2y} = \frac{dx}{x}[/tex]
...and integrate from here, but the answer is [itex]y = cx^2[/itex] and I don't see how they got that.
 
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Show us how you integrated, it shouldn't be so hard :smile:
 
TD said:
Show us how you integrated, it shouldn't be so hard :smile:

Ya, I know :rolleyes:

Can't I say that it's equal to
[tex]\int \frac{1}{2}y^{-1}dx =\int \frac{1}{x} dx[/tex]
...isn't the integral of [itex]\frac{1}{x} = ln (|x|)[/itex]?
 
cscott said:
Ya, I know :rolleyes:

Can't I say that it's equal to
[tex]\int \frac{1}{2}y^{-1}dx =\int \frac{1}{x} dx[/tex]
...isn't the integral of [itex]\frac{1}{x} = ln (|x|)[/itex]?

Yes, that looks right so far.
 
the left side of your equation should be inegrated with respect to y not x
 
mathmike said:
the left side of your equation should be inegrated with respect to y not x

Sorry, that was a typo.

So I should get 1/2 ln(|y|) + C' = ln(|x|) + C after I integrate? Hows that equal to y =cx^2? :\
 
combine C' and C into one constant, D, and refer to the properties of natural log
 
nocturnal said:
combine C' and C into one constant, D, and refer to the properties of natural log

C - C' = D

[tex]\ln y = \ln x^2 + D[/tex]

and I can just remove ln, even with D there?
 
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cscott said:
and I can just remove ln, even with D there?
no, use the properties of ln to simplify your equation.

hint:
[tex]\ln a - \ln b = \ \ ??[/tex]

[tex]e^{\ln a} = \ \ ??[/tex]

[tex]b \ln a = \ \ ??[/tex]
 
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So,

[tex]\ln \frac{y}{x^2} = D[/tex]
[tex]e^{\ln y/x^2} = e^D[/tex]

But then wouldn't I end up with

[tex]y = e^Dx^2[/tex]
 
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Yes, but since e is a constant and D is too, e^d is just another constant! Name it c and you have what you want :smile:
 
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TD said:
Yes, but since e is a constant and D is too, e^d is just another constant! Name it c and you have what you want :smile:

Oh, well that makes sense. Thanks everyone. :smile:
 

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