Solve Min Velocity for Ball Not to Touch Hemispherical Rock

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The discussion focuses on determining the minimum initial speed required for a ball kicked horizontally from the top of a hemispherical rock of radius R to avoid touching the rock. The key equation derived is (g^2x^4) / (4v^4) + gRx^2 / v^2 + x^2 > 0, which establishes the relationship between gravitational acceleration (g), horizontal velocity (v), and the distance (x) from the point of kick. The conclusion drawn is that the condition 1 > gR / v^2 must hold true, indicating that the initial velocity must be sufficiently high to ensure the ball's trajectory remains above the rock's surface.

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Homework Statement


A person standing at the top of a hemispherical rock of radius R kicks a ball (initially at rest on the top of the rock) to give it a horizontal velocity v.
What is the minimum initial speed to ensure the ball doesn't touch the rock?


Homework Equations


x^2 + y^2 = r^2
y = -0.5gt^2 + R


The Attempt at a Solution


R - (gx^2)/(2v^2) > sqrt(R^2 - x^2).
The left side is eqn for parabolic trajectory, the right is the boulder

After a lot of math you get something like this:

(g^2x^4) / (4v^4) + gRx^2 / v^2 + x^2 > 0

Now I am super confused about this part:
For some reason, the claim goes like, as x approaches 0, we get the tightest limit, therefore it needs the largest curvature at the start and it will pass the boulder (reasonable I guess..).
THEN for some reason, 1 > gR / v^2

I have no idea where this came from.

See here; http://minerva.union.edu/labrakes/2_D_Motion_Problems_Solutions.pdf

Another solution I read was;

m * v^2/R > mg
Fc > Fg.

Why...? The acceleration into the boulder has to be GREATER than gravity?
That doesn't make a lot of sense to me :(
 
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012anonymousx said:
A person standing at the top of a hemispherical rock of radius R kicks a ball (initially at rest on the top of the rock) to give it a horizontal velocity v.
What is the minimum initial speed to ensure the ball doesn't touch the rock?
At first glance, ISTMT you need the ball to travel at least R metres horizontally in the time that it takes to fall R metres vertically.
 

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