Solve Natural Logarithm Equation lnx+ ln(x-1) = 1

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The problem involves solving the equation lnx + ln(x-1) = 1, which falls under the subject area of logarithmic equations. Participants are exploring the properties of logarithms and their application to isolate the variable x.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the application of logarithmic properties, such as ln(a) + ln(b) = ln(ab), and how to manipulate the equation to isolate x. There is uncertainty about the correct application of these properties and the subsequent steps to take.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants providing guidance on logarithmic properties and suggesting the use of the quadratic formula after transforming the equation. However, there is no explicit consensus on the next steps, and some participants express confusion about isolating x.

Contextual Notes

Some participants question their assumptions about the applicability of logarithmic laws to natural logarithms, indicating a potential gap in understanding. The problem involves a quadratic equation after manipulation, which adds complexity to the solution process.

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Homework Statement



lnx+ ln(x-1) = 1

solve each equation for x

Homework Equations



ln(e^x) = x
e^lnx = x

The Attempt at a Solution



x + (x-1) = e^1 [==> using ln(e^x) = x]
from this point on, I am stuck because I am having trouble isolating x because of the x that is in the brackets.

-Thanks in advance
 
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Remember the logarithm property
ln(a) + ln(b) = ln(ab)
 
Bohrok,

Thank you. For some reason I always assumed that the logarithm laws such as log(x/y)= log x-logy etc, could not be applied to natural logarithms. I guess questions like that never really came up.

So using ln(ab) = lna + lnb

I get,

lnx + ln(x-1) = 1
ln(x2-x) = 1

so e1 = x2-x

Am I missing a step? I still cannot isolate x to solve for it. I think I may be jumping in a little too early for the cancellation rule.

-Thanks in advance
 
The properties of logarithms work with any positive number base (I believe), at least with most numbers you come across, like 10 and e.

What you have now is a quadratic equation with an x2 term, so use the quadratic formula after you set the equation equal to 0.
 

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