Solve Pendulum Problem: Tension 150 N, Mass .65 kg, 28m Apart

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The problem involves a cord of mass 0.65 kg stretched between two supports 28 m apart, with a tension of 150 N. The goal is to determine the time it takes for a pulse to travel from one support to the other.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the appropriate equations for calculating wave speed in a stretched cord, questioning the relevance of pendulum equations. There is an exploration of the correct formula for wave speed and its application to the problem.

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Some participants have provided guidance on the correct approach to find the wave speed of the cord. There is an acknowledgment of differing interpretations of the problem, with one participant expressing uncertainty about the initial approach and seeking clarification.

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There is a noted confusion regarding the application of pendulum equations to this problem, as well as a discrepancy between the calculated time and a reference value from a book.

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Homework Statement


A cord of mass .65 kg is stretched between two supports 28 m apart. If the tension in the cord is 150 N, how long will it take a pulse to travel from one support to the other?


Homework Equations


umm... the only equation to find helpful was...

T = 2pi\sqrt{m/(mg/L)} = 2pi\sqrt{m/(F/L)}?


The Attempt at a Solution



Knowns:

F (tension) = 150 N
m = .65 kg
L = 28 m

2pi\sqrt{.65 kg/(150 N/28 m)} = 2.19 s?

Though the book says it is 35 s...

Help? Should there be another equation that I should be using or did I miss something?
 
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Hi Kandycat,

Kandycat said:

Homework Statement


A cord of mass .65 kg is stretched between two supports 28 m apart. If the tension in the cord is 150 N, how long will it take a pulse to travel from one support to the other?


Homework Equations


umm... the only equation to find helpful was...

T = 2pi\sqrt{m/(mg/L)} = 2pi\sqrt{m/(F/L)}?

This is not a pendulum, so these equations do not apply here. In this problem, a cord is stretched and a pulse is made to travel along the cord, so you want to find an expression for the wave speed of a stretched string. What would that be?
 
Oh... so is it v = \sqrt{F(t)/(m/L)}?

v = \sqrt{150 N/(.65 kg/ 28 m)} = 80.35 m/s

T = L/v = 28 m/80.35 m/s = .35 s

Thanks!

Sorry about that.
 
That looks right to me!
 

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