Solve Physics Duck Problem: Find Min V0 & Angle for Bullet Targeting Duck

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The problem involves calculating the minimum initial velocity and angle required for a bullet to hit a duck flying horizontally at a certain height. The known variables include the duck's horizontal velocity, its height, and the acceleration due to gravity.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the use of kinematic equations to relate the positions of the duck and the bullet. There is mention of using the Pythagorean Theorem to resolve components of the initial velocity. Some participants express confusion over differing results from their calculations compared to a reference book.

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There is ongoing exploration of the problem, with participants offering different methods and questioning the assumptions made in their calculations. Some guidance is provided regarding the use of conservation of energy as an alternative approach, but no consensus has been reached on the correct answer.

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Participants note discrepancies between their results and the book's answers, specifically regarding the factors involved in the minimum initial velocity calculation. There is also a discussion about the implications of assuming the bullet's vertical velocity is zero upon impact.

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1. A duck flies horizontally with velocity v at a height h. When a duckhunter is right below it, he shoots with his shotgun. What is the minimum initial velocity V0 of the bullet and the angle a at which he shoots so that the bullet hits the duck?
Obviously, given are v, h and gravity acceleration g.

2.I think I just need to take that
Xduck = vt,
Xbullet = V0xt,
Ybullet = V0yt - 1/2 gt2,
Vy = V0y - gt for the bullet.

3.I just took
Xduck = Xbullet,
Yduck = Ybullet,
and Vy > 0 for the bullet
but I still get a result different than the one in my book.
 
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All the things you have written are correct, assuming you are using h as the Y value for duck and bullet. Unless you use the Pythagorean Theorem for v0x and v0y then you're stuck with 2 equations and 3 unknowns (the 3rd unknown being the angle a).
 
Yeah, I took Yduck = h.

My final result is that V0min = sqrt(v2 + 2gh) but the book says the answer is V0min = sqrt(v2 + 0.5gh)
 
Well, I don't know why your answer is different by that factor, but I do know that this is more easily solved using conservation of energy. Since it asks for the minimum speed, you can assume the bullet's vertical velocity is zero when it hits the duck, so it need only have enough kinetic energy to be moving at the same speed as the duck:

\frac{1}{2}mv02 = mgh + \frac{1}{2}mv2

and the correct answer for the speed comes pretty easily from that.

You can do the same thing with kinematics, I suppose, and make Vfy = 0
 

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