Solve Spherical Shell Gauss Problem with Differential Form Only

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The problem involves a hollow spherical shell with a charge density defined as \(\rho=\frac{k}{r^2}\) within the radii \(a\) and \(b\). The objective is to determine the electric field in the region between these radii using the differential form of Gauss's law, specifically avoiding the integral form.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to derive the electric field using the divergence of the electric field and questions whether their relationships and assumptions are correct. Other participants suggest considering solutions to the associated homogeneous differential equation and applying boundary conditions.

Discussion Status

Participants are exploring different approaches to satisfy boundary conditions without using Gauss's law. There is a recognition of the need to clarify assumptions regarding the boundary conditions at \(r = a\) and the implications of the charge density being zero in the inner region.

Contextual Notes

There is a constraint on using the integral form of Gauss's law, which complicates the determination of boundary conditions. Participants are discussing the implications of this restriction on their reasoning and solutions.

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Homework Statement


A hollow spherical shell carries charge density \rho=\frac{k}{r^2} in the region a<=r<=b, where a is the inner radius and b is the outer radius. Find the electric field in the region a<r<b.
I'm not allowed to use integral form of Gauss's law, must use differential form.

Homework Equations


Relating charge density to electric field divergence \vec{∇}\cdot\vec{E}=\frac{\rho}{\epsilon_{0}}

The Attempt at a Solution


Using the integral method, I believe the electric field is \vec{E}(\vec{r})=\frac{k}{\epsilon_{0}}\frac{r-a}{r^2}\hat{r}
I then went ahead and determined that spherical co-ordinates are the way to go, and that the E-field has only an \hat{r} component and put together
\vec{∇}\cdot\vec{E}=\frac{1}{r^2}\frac{∂(r^2\vec{E}(\vec{r}))}{∂r}=\frac{k}{r^2\epsilon_{0}}

By inspection I decided that I should have \vec{E}(\vec{r})=\frac{k}{\epsilon_{0}r}\hat{r}. While this does satisfy \vec{∇}\cdot\vec{E}=\frac{\rho}{\epsilon_{0}}, it is not in agreement with the integral form.

So my question is, am I using these relationships incorrectly? I'm very confused, since when I integrate ∇E from a to r, I get the same answer as the Gauss integral form, but not sure why this could be, since I understand that the integral of ∇E is equal to the charge enclosed by a Gaussian surface. Since I'm just interested in the E-field at a point in the shell, why would I need to integrate anyway?
 
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Hello, gavman.

By inspection you found a particular solution to the differential equation. You can add to it any solution to the associated homogeneous differential equation. Then you can satisfy the appropriate boundary condition at r = a.
 
Hi TSny
Ok, I have \frac{k}{\epsilon_{0}r^2} as a solution to the associated DE. To get this I used ∇E=0 then substituted my particular solution for E. Do I then just state that at the boundary, E=0 and then build an equation from my two E(r) equations which satisfies this condition? I'm just not sure if I have made an unreasonable assumption.
thanks.
 
Yes, that sounds right. Of course, you are invoking the boundary condition that E = 0 at r = a and you might ask where that comes from. It's easy to use Gauss' law to get E = 0 everywhere r<a. But since you are not to use Gauss' law, I'm not sure how you are supposed to get the boundary condition at r= a.
 
In the inner range (r<a), ρ=0. The solution of ∇E=0 is E=C/r2, C is a constant. But there is no singularity at r=0, so C must be zero.

ehild
 
Ah. Good. That nails the boundary condition.
 
Great, thanks for your help guys, appreciate it.
 

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