Solve Spherical Shell Gauss Problem with Differential Form Only

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The discussion focuses on solving the electric field for a hollow spherical shell with a charge density of \(\rho=\frac{k}{r^2}\) in the region \(a \leq r \leq b\) using the differential form of Gauss's law. Participants clarify that the divergence of the electric field, \(\vec{∇}\cdot\vec{E}=\frac{\rho}{\epsilon_{0}}\), leads to the solution \(\vec{E}(\vec{r})=\frac{k}{\epsilon_{0}r}\hat{r}\) within the shell. The importance of boundary conditions, particularly that \(E=0\) at \(r=a\), is emphasized, and the necessity of not using the integral form of Gauss's law is reiterated.

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Homework Statement


A hollow spherical shell carries charge density \rho=\frac{k}{r^2} in the region a<=r<=b, where a is the inner radius and b is the outer radius. Find the electric field in the region a<r<b.
I'm not allowed to use integral form of Gauss's law, must use differential form.

Homework Equations


Relating charge density to electric field divergence \vec{∇}\cdot\vec{E}=\frac{\rho}{\epsilon_{0}}

The Attempt at a Solution


Using the integral method, I believe the electric field is \vec{E}(\vec{r})=\frac{k}{\epsilon_{0}}\frac{r-a}{r^2}\hat{r}
I then went ahead and determined that spherical co-ordinates are the way to go, and that the E-field has only an \hat{r} component and put together
\vec{∇}\cdot\vec{E}=\frac{1}{r^2}\frac{∂(r^2\vec{E}(\vec{r}))}{∂r}=\frac{k}{r^2\epsilon_{0}}

By inspection I decided that I should have \vec{E}(\vec{r})=\frac{k}{\epsilon_{0}r}\hat{r}. While this does satisfy \vec{∇}\cdot\vec{E}=\frac{\rho}{\epsilon_{0}}, it is not in agreement with the integral form.

So my question is, am I using these relationships incorrectly? I'm very confused, since when I integrate ∇E from a to r, I get the same answer as the Gauss integral form, but not sure why this could be, since I understand that the integral of ∇E is equal to the charge enclosed by a Gaussian surface. Since I'm just interested in the E-field at a point in the shell, why would I need to integrate anyway?
 
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Hello, gavman.

By inspection you found a particular solution to the differential equation. You can add to it any solution to the associated homogeneous differential equation. Then you can satisfy the appropriate boundary condition at r = a.
 
Hi TSny
Ok, I have \frac{k}{\epsilon_{0}r^2} as a solution to the associated DE. To get this I used ∇E=0 then substituted my particular solution for E. Do I then just state that at the boundary, E=0 and then build an equation from my two E(r) equations which satisfies this condition? I'm just not sure if I have made an unreasonable assumption.
thanks.
 
Yes, that sounds right. Of course, you are invoking the boundary condition that E = 0 at r = a and you might ask where that comes from. It's easy to use Gauss' law to get E = 0 everywhere r<a. But since you are not to use Gauss' law, I'm not sure how you are supposed to get the boundary condition at r= a.
 
In the inner range (r<a), ρ=0. The solution of ∇E=0 is E=C/r2, C is a constant. But there is no singularity at r=0, so C must be zero.

ehild
 
Ah. Good. That nails the boundary condition.
 
Great, thanks for your help guys, appreciate it.
 

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