Solve the Bernoulli differential equation

In summary, the equation in the textbook is incorrect. I recommend substituting 3e^{-17x} for the RHS and solving for v(x).
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kindly look at the attachment below
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kindly note that my question or rather my only interest on this equation is how we arrive at the equation,

##v(x)=ce^{15x} - \frac {3}{17} e^{-2x}## ...is there a mistake on the textbook here?

in my working i am finding,

##v(x)=-1.5e^{13x} +ke^{15x}##
 
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Try plugging it into the differential equation and see if it is a solution.
 
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caz said:
Try plugging it into the differential equation and see if it is a solution.
I haven't talked about solution...my only interest is on the step of finding ##v(x)##, is my ##v(x)## wrong?
 
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There is an equation for v(x). Plug your v(x) into it.
 
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I got the same as the book. Which is the first step in your solution that differs from the solution in the book?
 
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ok this are my steps, let me know what i have done wrong...
 
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The rhs is wrong.
 
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chwala said:
ok this are my steps, let me know what i have done wrong...

It's just that after you found the integrating factor ##\mu(x) = e^{-15x}##, you multiplied the LHS by it but forgot to also multiply the RHS by it! And so ended up with a false statement. :smile:

So just change the RHS to ##3e^{-17x}##, and you should be good to go.
 
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aaaaargh...i have seen it, i did not multiply both sides by integral factor.
 
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:cool:
 
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chwala said:
aaaaargh...i have seen it, i did not multiply both sides by integral factor.

Not to be pedantic, but it is “integrating” factor.

May I make a general observation? I have seen several of your posts and you need to work on minimizing carelessness in your work. Some suggestions:
1) Slow down.
2) Don’t skip steps.
3) Look for ways to check your answers like I was suggesting above.
4) If you suspect your answer is wrong, and cannot find it or are doing correction after correction, start again with a clean sheet of paper and do not copy things. You will have learned stuff in the first attempt that will influence how you go at the problem a second time.
5) Be patient.
 
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caz said:
Not to be pedantic, but it is “integrating” factor.

May I make a general observation? I have seen several of your posts and you need to work on minimizing carelessness in your work. Some suggestions:
1) Slow down.
2) Don’t skip steps.
3) Look for ways to check your answers like I was suggesting above.
4) If you suspect your answer is wrong, and cannot find it or are doing correction after correction, start again with a clean sheet of paper and do not copy things. You will have learned stuff in the first attempt that will influence how you go at the problem a second time.
5) Be patient.

True caz, integrating factor it is...yeah I am always in a haste...Will slow down. Cheers
 
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caz said:
3) Look for ways to check your answers like I was suggesting above.
Not to minimize the other steps that @caz mentioned, but the one here is very important.
 
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Yeah true, by substituting ##V(x)## and its derivative...I should have checked if it satisfies the previous equation, specifically the exponential function on the right hand side.
 
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I will just take time to re check my work before posting, I am refreshing on these areas as its long since I dealt with them. Definitely, I need to improve on 'silly' mistakes...but most importantly, what I am proud of is that I know and understand the concepts required. Bingo!
 
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chwala said:
True caz, integrating factor it is...yeah I am always in a haste...Will slow down. Cheers

In other terms, it means that i should be able to solve the problems by myself with due diligence without necessarily running to the forum. Thats a compliment...I guess now, I will take time to ponder on problems than just rush as I have the capabilities...
 
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1. What is the Bernoulli differential equation?

The Bernoulli differential equation is a type of first-order ordinary differential equation that can be written in the form dy/dx + p(x)y = q(x)y^n, where n is a constant. It is named after the Swiss mathematician Jacob Bernoulli who first studied this type of equation.

2. What is the general solution to the Bernoulli differential equation?

The general solution to the Bernoulli differential equation is given by y = (1/n)(1/u^(n-1) + C), where u = e^(∫p(x)dx) and C is a constant. This solution can be obtained through the use of substitution and integration.

3. How is the Bernoulli differential equation different from other types of differential equations?

The Bernoulli differential equation is different from other types of differential equations because it contains a non-linear term (y^n) in addition to the linear term (p(x)y). This makes it more difficult to solve and requires a specific method, such as substitution, to find the solution.

4. What are some real-world applications of the Bernoulli differential equation?

The Bernoulli differential equation has various applications in physics and engineering, such as in the study of fluid flow, population dynamics, and chemical reactions. It can also be used to model growth and decay processes in biology and economics.

5. Are there any limitations or restrictions when solving the Bernoulli differential equation?

Yes, there are some limitations and restrictions when solving the Bernoulli differential equation. For example, the equation must be in the specific form mentioned earlier, and the constant n cannot equal 0 or 1. Additionally, the equation may not have a closed-form solution for certain values of p(x) and q(x). In these cases, numerical methods may be used to approximate the solution.

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