Solve the given inequality

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The discussion revolves around solving the inequality involving a rational function, specifically analyzing the expression \(\frac{(x+1)(x+4)}{(x-1)(x-2)} - 2 < 0\). Participants are exploring algebraic methods and sign analysis to determine the intervals where the inequality holds true.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss transforming the original inequality into a simpler form and analyze critical points and asymptotes. There are questions regarding the handling of the denominator's sign and the implications for the numerator's behavior. Some participants explore the conditions under which the function changes sign.

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The conversation is active, with various interpretations being explored. Some participants offer insights into the behavior of the function based on critical points and sign changes, while others question the assumptions made in the analysis. There is no explicit consensus yet, but productive dialogue is occurring around the implications of the transformations and the conditions for the inequality.

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Participants are considering the implications of vertical asymptotes at \(x=1\) and \(x=2\), as well as critical points at \(x=0\) and \(x=11\). The discussion reflects the complexity of determining the sign of the rational function across different intervals.

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I am interested in an algebraic approach.

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My lines are as follows;

##\dfrac{(x+1)(x+4)}{(x-1)(x-2)} -2<0##

##\dfrac{(x^2+5x+4) - 2(x-1)(x-2)}{(x-1)(x-2)} <0##

The denominator will give us the vertical asymptotes ##x=1## and ##x=2##

The numerator gives us,

##x^2+5x+4-2x^2+6x-4 <0##

##-x^2+11x<0##

##x(-x+11)<0##

##x=0## is critical value ##⇒x<0## and the other critical value is ##x=11## ##⇒x>11##. On checking together with the asymptotes, we end up with
##x<0, 1<x<2 ## and ##x>11##.
Any insight or positive criticism is welcome.
 
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You said "the numerator gives us" but the things that follows is only true if the denominator is positive, which you haven't explicitly handled i think?
 
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You have converted the original inequality into
$$\dfrac{x(-x+11)}{(x-1)(x-2)} <0$$
This means that either
$$x(-x+11)<0, (x-1)(x-2)>0$$ or $$x(-x+11)>0, (x-1)(x-2)<0$$
These two options further split:
$$x<0, (-x+11)>0, (x-1)>0,(x-2)>0$$ $$x>0, (-x+11)<0, (x-1)>0,(x-2)>0$$ $$x<0, (-x+11)>0, (x-1)<0,(x-2)<0$$ $$x>0, (-x+11)<0, (x-1)<0,(x-2)<0$$ $$x<0, (-x+11)<0, (x-1)<0,(x-2)>0$$ $$x>0, (-x+11)>0, (x-1)<0,(x-2)>0$$ $$x<0, (-x+11)<0, (x-1)<0,(x-2)>0$$ $$x>0, (-x+11)>0, (x-1)<0,(x-2)>0$$
The first inequality gives $$x<0,x<11,x>1,x>2$$ which is empty.
Etc.
 
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We require <br /> f(x) = \frac{x(11-x)}{(x-1)(x - 2)} &lt; 0. The numerator and denominator have no common linear factors, so f changes sign whenever a linear factor of either the numerator or the denominator changes sign. Thus we have sign changes at x = 0, 1, 2, 11.

Starting at x = -\infty, we see that f(x) \sim -1, so f(x) &lt; 0 for x &lt; 0 and 1 &lt; x &lt; 2 and x &gt; 11.
 
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pasmith said:
We require <br /> f(x) = \frac{x(11-x)}{(x-1)(x - 2)} &lt; 0. The numerator and denominator have no common linear factors, so f changes sign whenever a linear factor of either the numerator or the denominator changes sign. Thus we have sign changes at x = 0, 1, 2, 11.

Starting at x = -\infty, we see that f(x) \sim -1, so f(x) &lt; 0 for x &lt; 0 and 1 &lt; x &lt; 2 and x &gt; 11.
For one to use sign change one has to take the derivative of ##f(x)## with respect to ##x##?
 
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For one to use sign change one has to take the derivative of ##f(x)## with respect to ##x##?
No, you don't need to take the derivative. For example, looking at the x - 1 factor in the denominator, it will change sign for x on either side of 1, but close to 1. The factors in the numerator, x and 11 - x don't change sign. The other factor in the denominator, x - 2, also doesn't change sign.

Since no other factors change sign, the y value changes sign for values near 1, but on either side of 1. This can be seen by looking at the graph you attached in the OP.
 
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