Solve the given trigonometry equation

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The discussion revolves around solving a trigonometric equation involving hyperbolic functions, specifically focusing on the inverse hyperbolic sine and hyperbolic cosine functions.

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Homework Statement
Solve for ##x## in exact form given;

##\sinh^{-1}x = 2\cosh^{-1} 2##
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hyperbolic trig equation
I was able to solve with a rather longer way; there could be a more straightforward approach;

My steps are along these lines;

##\sinh^{-1} x = 2 \ln (2+ \sqrt{3})##

##\sinh^{-1} x = \ln (7+ 4\sqrt{3})##

##x = \sinh[ \ln (7+ 4\sqrt{3})]##

##x = \dfrac {e^{\ln (7+ 4 \sqrt{3})} - e^{-[\ln 7+ 4 \sqrt{3}]}} {2}##


##x = \dfrac{(7+ 4 \sqrt{3})^2 -1}{\ 7+ 4 \sqrt{3}} \div 2##

##x = \dfrac{49+28\sqrt{3} + 28\sqrt{3} +48-1}{2(7+4\sqrt{3})}##

##x = \dfrac{672-384\sqrt{3}+392\sqrt{3} -672}{2(7+4\sqrt{3})}=\dfrac{8\sqrt{3}}{2}##

##x=4\sqrt{3}##
 
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$$
x = \sinh(2\cosh^{-1}(2)) = 2\cdot 2 \sinh(\cosh^{-1}(2))
= 4 \sqrt{4-1} = 4 \sqrt 3
$$
 
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Orodruin said:
$$
x = \sinh(2\cosh^{-1}(2)) = 2\cdot 2 \sinh(\cosh^{-1}(2))
= 4 \sqrt{4-1} = 4 \sqrt 3
$$
Informative- I was not aware of the identities as indicated on wikipedia;

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inverse_hyperbolic_functions

I am still trying to understand how you factored out the extra ##2## in your substitution for;

##\sin[\cosh^{-1} x ]= \sqrt{x^2-1}##

Otherwise, from my further study i was able to realize,

##2 \cosh^{-1} 2 = \cosh^{-1} (2⋅2^2-1)=\cosh^{-1} 7##

and

##\sin[\cosh^{-1} 7 ]= \sqrt{7^2-1}=\sqrt{48}=4\sqrt{3}##

Cheers.
 
chwala said:
Informative- I was not aware of the identities as indicated on wikipedia;

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inverse_hyperbolic_functions

I am still trying to understand how you factored out the extra ##2## in your substitution for;

##\sin[\cosh^{-1} x ]= \sqrt{x^2-1}##
Not sure which 2 you think is the ”extra” …
 
Orodruin said:
$$
x = \sinh(2\cosh^{-1}(2)) = 2\cdot 2 \sinh(\cosh^{-1}(2))
= 4 \sqrt{4-1} = 4 \sqrt 3
$$
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chwala said:
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That doesn’t really help. One of the twos is from the 2 in ##\sinh(2x) = 2\sinh(x)\cosh(x)##. The other from the cosh(x) and ##x = \cosh^{-1}(2)##.
 
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Aaaaaah boss I can see what you did on that part now; a bit tricky will post the response later.

One has to take ... ##\cosh[\cosh^{-1} (2)]= 2##. Wah.


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From

##x=\sinh[2\cosh^{-1}(2)]##
## = 2\sinh[\cosh^{-1} (2)]⋅\cosh[\cosh^{-1} (2)]##
## = 2\sinh[\cosh^{-1} (2)]⋅2 ##
## = 4 \sinh[\cosh^{-1} (2)]=4\sqrt{4-1}=4\sqrt {3}##
 
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chwala said:
Aaaaaah boss I can see what you did on that part now; a bit tricky will post the response later.

One has to take ... ##\cosh[\cosh^{-1} (2)]= 2##. Wah.
A couple of identities for hyperbolic functions are also useful. @Orodruin used the hyperbolic function double argument identity:

##\displaystyle \quad \quad \quad \quad \sinh(2u)=2\sinh u \cosh u \ ## .

In addition to this hyperbolic identity, one may also make use of ##\displaystyle \quad \sinh^2 u = \cosh^2 u -1 \ ,\quad ## to find that

## \displaystyle \quad \quad \sinh[\cosh^{-1} (2)] = \sqrt{ \cosh^2 [ \cosh^{-1} (2) ]-1 \ }=\sqrt{3}##

So, its not so tricky after all.
Moreover, there's no need to resort to tricky identities for Inverse hyperbolic functions.
 
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