Solve the initial value problem

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The discussion revolves around solving an initial value problem for a differential equation involving the function \( y \) as a function of \( x \). The equation is given by \(\sqrt{16-x^2} \, \frac{dy}{dx} = 1\) with the initial condition \( y(0) = 12 \). Participants explore various methods of integration and variable separation.

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  • Mathematical reasoning
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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests starting by integrating both sides of the equation.
  • Another participant proposes separating variables and using dummy variables for clarity in integration.
  • A different viewpoint argues against the necessity of dummy variables, stating that the integration can be performed directly.
  • There is mention of using the initial condition to determine the constant of integration after performing the integration.
  • One participant expresses confusion over the number of steps in a previous example and seeks to understand the current approach better.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the use of dummy variables in the integration process, with some advocating for their use while others argue they are unnecessary. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the best approach to take.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved aspects regarding the integration steps and the application of the initial condition, as well as differing opinions on the clarity provided by dummy variables.

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Solve the initial value problem
for $y$ as a function of $x$
\begin{align*}\displaystyle
\sqrt{16-x^2} \, \frac{dy}{dx}&=1, \, x<4, y(0)=12
\end{align*}

assume the first thing to do is $\int$ both sides
 
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I would separate variables, switch dummy variables, and use the boundaries:

$$\int_{y_0}^{y(x)}\,du=\int_0^x \left(16-v^2\right)^{-\frac{1}{2}}\,dv$$
 
karush said:
Solve the initial value problem
for $y$ as a function of $x$
\begin{align*}\displaystyle
\sqrt{16-x^2} \, \frac{dy}{dx}&=1, \, x<4, y(0)=12
\end{align*}

assume the first thing to do is $\int$ both sides

I don't see why you would need dummy variables...

$\displaystyle \begin{align*} \frac{\mathrm{d}y}{\mathrm{d}x} &= \frac{1}{\sqrt{16 - x^2}} \\ y &= \int{ \frac{1}{\sqrt{16 - x^2}}\,\mathrm{d}x } \end{align*}$

Once you integrate you will have a constant of integration, use your initial condition to determine it.
 
You don't need them but it helps to distinguish the integrand from the final integral.
 
the MML sample didn't use dummy vars
but showing 20+ steps I got lost. so want see how this goes
$$\int_{y_0}^{y(x)}\,du=\int_0^x \left(16-v^2\right)^{-\frac{1}{2}}\,dv$$
so next
$\displaystyle
\left[u\right]_{12}^{y(x)}
=\left[\arcsin\left(\frac{u}{4}\right)\right]_0^x$
kinda ??
 

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