Solve the proof in problem involving logarithms

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The discussion revolves around a proof involving logarithms, specifically focusing on the relationships between different logarithmic expressions and their transformations. Participants are exploring various approaches to manipulate these logarithmic identities.

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  • One participant discusses using the change of base formula to derive relationships between logarithmic expressions. Others present alternative forms of the expressions and question the steps taken to arrive at certain conclusions, particularly regarding the derivation of specific ratios.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants sharing different perspectives and approaches. Some have provided insights into their reasoning, while others are seeking clarification on specific steps taken by their peers. There is no explicit consensus yet, as multiple interpretations and methods are being explored.

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Participants are working under the constraints of a homework problem, which may limit the information available for discussion. There are indications of confusion regarding the derivation of certain logarithmic relationships, suggesting that assumptions or definitions may need further examination.

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Homework Statement
If ##log_a n=x## and ##log_c n=y##, where ##n≠1##, prove that, $$\frac {x-y}{x+y}=\frac {log_b c-log_b a}{log_b c+log_ba}$$
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understanding of logs
In my approach, i made use of change of base; i.e

$$x-y=\frac {log_b n}{log_b a} -\frac {log_b n}{log_b c}$$
$$x-y=\frac {log_b c ⋅log_b n - log_b n ⋅logba}{log_b a ⋅log_bc}$$
and
$$x+y=\frac {log_b n}{log_b a} +\frac {log_b n}{log_b c}$$
$$x-y=\frac {log_b c ⋅log_b n + log_b n ⋅logba}{log_b a ⋅log_bc}$$

$$→\frac {x-y}{x+y}=\frac {log_b n}{log_b n}⋅ \frac {log_b c - logba}{log_b c +log_b a}$$
$$=\frac {log_b c - logba}{log_b c +log_b a}$$

Any other way of looking at it...
 
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\frac{y}{x}=\frac{log_na}{log_nc}=\frac{log_ba}{log_bc}
where b is any positive number. So we get the formula of
\frac{1-y/x}{1+y/x}
as requested.
 
anuttarasammyak said:
\frac{y}{x}=\frac{log_na}{log_nc}=\frac{log_ba}{log_bc}
where b is any positive number. So we get the formula of
\frac{1-y/x}{1+y/x}
as requested.
I do not seem to get what you did here...how did you arrive at this
\frac{y}{x}=\frac{log_na}{log_nc}=\frac{log_ba}{log_bc}
 
Between the middle and the right terms, there is a term
\frac{\log_ba/\log_bn}{\log_bc/\log_bn}
 

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