Solve the Tricky Series Question: Express \sum n^2x^n as a Function of x

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The discussion revolves around the series \(\sum n^2 x^n\) and the challenge of expressing it as a function of \(x\). Participants explore various approaches to derive a closed form for the series, considering its convergence properties and mathematical manipulations.

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  • One participant expresses difficulty in approaching the problem and seeks help in expressing the series as a function of \(x\).
  • Another participant humorously questions the professor's ability to solve the problem, indicating a light-hearted tone in the discussion.
  • Several participants note that the series converges only for \(|x| < 1\), emphasizing the importance of this condition in their discussions.
  • A participant mentions that there is no closed form for the series unless specific conditions on \(x\) are met.
  • One participant provides a hint suggesting that the solution involves the quotient of a quadratic polynomial and a cubic polynomial, referencing identities from external sources.
  • Another participant outlines a method involving differentiation of a geometric series to derive the function representation of the series.
  • Questions are raised about the necessity of knowing the equivalence between the series and the quotient of polynomials, indicating a search for understanding the underlying principles.

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Participants generally agree on the convergence condition of the series, but there are multiple competing views on how to express the series as a function of \(x\). The discussion remains unresolved regarding the exact form of the function.

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My professor was going over some powers relating to series, and power series. He came across the problem below which he didn't even know how to solve. I am trying to figure out how to solve it, but can't get anywhere. Does anyone know how to approach this problem? Express this series as a function of x.
\sum n^2x^n from n=1 to \infty

So, f(x) = ?
 
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come on. who's your professor, george w bush?
 
I've blanked once or twice when teaching a class before. Its embarrasing, particularly when its easy, but I've seen it happen to field medal winners
 
Woops sorry guys. I forgot to post the actually question. The guestion is to express that series as a function of x.
 
Quite simple really, f(x) = \sum_{n=1}^{\infty} n^2 x^n.

Looking for a nicer (ie closed form) answer? There is no such closed form answer, unless you are looking for values of x where |x| &lt;1, in which case there may be.
 
It's not just that there is no "closed form answer"- that series only converges for |x|< 1.
 
I am not looking for the radius of convergence. I am looking how to epxress that series as a function.
 
HallsofIvy said:
It's not just that there is no "closed form answer"- that series only converges for |x|< 1.

I was alluding to that point =]

I am not looking for the radius of convergence. I am looking how to express that series as a function.

Don't you like my answer?
 
Just to see if the summation converges to a single function, I Maple-ed it, and Maple gives a solution to f(x)=\sum_{n=1}^{\infty} n^2 x^n. HINT: It is the quotient of a quadratic polynomial and a cubic polynomial.

Perhaps this identity can be of some help (from Wikipedia):
\sum_{i=0}^n i^2 x^i = \frac{x}{(1-x)^3} (1+x-(n+1)^2x^n+(2n^2+2n-1)x^{n+1}-n^2x^{n+2}).

This simpler identity helps too (from here):
\sum_{i=0}^\infty i^2 x^i = \frac{x^2+x}{(1-x)^3}

EDIT: Do a little manipulation to the above identity, and you'll end up with your solution.
 
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My word,
1 + x + x^2 + x^3 + .. . + x^n + ... = (1-x)^(-1)

differentiating and multiplying both sides by x we have,

1+ 2x^2 + 3x^3 + ... + nx^n + ... = x (1-x)^(-2)
do the same again and you'll have a result valid inside the unit disc with the origin as a centre.
 
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Can one go backwards from the series to the quotient of polynomials? Or must one have to know that each are equivalent from experience?
 
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Gib Z said:
Quite simple really, f(x) = \sum_{n=1}^{\infty} n^2 x^n.

Looking for a nicer (ie closed form) answer? There is no such closed form answer, unless you are looking for values of x where |x| &lt;1, in which case there may be.
Here's how to derive it:
f(x)=x\sum_{i=1}^{\infty}n^{2}x^{n-1}=x\frac{d}{dx}\sum_{i=1}^{\infty}nx^{n}=x\frac{d}{dx}x\frac{d}{dx}\sum_{i=1}^{\infty}x^{n}=x\frac{d}{dx}x\frac{d}{dx}\frac{x}{1-x}

Now, do the differentiations, and get the rational representation of f(x).
 
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sennyk said:
Can one go backwards from the series to the quotient of polynomials? Or must one have to know that each are equivalent from experience?

Well we need an infinite series, S satisfying the following relation,

S = 1 + xS

Not all that far off, it can be more 'traditionally' derived by considering the finite geometric progression and evaluating the limit. I've provided a simple derivation that can be easily followed.
 

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