Solve Trig Factor Law: sin x + cos x from a Given Equation

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The problem involves finding the expression for sin x + cos x given the equations sin x + sin y = a and cos x + cos y = a, where a is not equal to zero. The context is trigonometric identities and relationships.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss rewriting the equations in terms of (x + y)/2 and (x - y)/2. Some attempt to apply factor and double angle laws, while others express confusion about the steps taken and results derived.

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The discussion is ongoing with various approaches being explored. Some participants have provided hints and suggestions for alternative methods, while others are questioning the validity of certain steps and assumptions made during the problem-solving process.

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There is a debate about the validity of including angles beyond the standard range of 0 to 360 degrees, as well as the implications this has on the solutions derived. Participants are also considering the implications of different angle values on the final expression.

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i encountered some problems while solving this question.
Hope someone would show me the necessary working and solution, thanks in advance (:

Question:

Given that sin x + sin y = a and cos x + cos y = a. where a[tex]\neq[/tex]0 , find sin x + cos x in terms of a.

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icystrike said:
Given that sin x + sin y = a and cos x + cos y = a. where a[tex]\neq[/tex]0 , find sin x + cos x in terms of a.

Hi icystrike! Welcome to PF! :smile:

Hint: instead of x and y, write both equations in terms of (x + y)/2 and (x - y)/2. :wink:

(or you could just subtract the two equations, and use a formula for sinx - cosx)
 


i tried tat method alr..
factor law fellowed by double angle law

i derive with 2(sin x/2)(cos y/2)=0

but nothing can move on..
 
icystrike said:
i tried tat method alr..
factor law fellowed by double angle law

i derive with 2(sin x/2)(cos y/2)=0

No, you shouldn't have got that :confused:

show us your full calculation. :smile:
 


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ah … you went a bit doo-lally :rolleyes: after sin(x+y)/2 = cos(x+y)/2 …

just divide by the RHS, and you get tan(x+y)/2 = 1,

and so x+y = … ? :smile:
 


yup.
(x+y)/2=45 deg , 225 deg
 
icystrike said:
yup.
(x+y)/2=45 deg , 225 deg

Go on then … so x+y = … ?

and so sinx + cosx = … ? :smile:
 


eh. x+y=90,450 deg

sinx+cosx
i can't find..
 
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icystrike said:
eh. x+y=90,450 deg

sinx+cosx
i can't find..

i] for a start you can forget 450 … it's more than 360

ii] so x + y = 90º … so siny = … ? :smile:
 
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i think can't drop 450 deg cos they did not mention tat it must be larger or equal to 0 and smaller or equal to 360. cos it produces different answers in the end..

siny=cosx or 2(siny/2)(cosy/2)
theefore sinx+cosx=sinx+siny=a
 
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icystrike said:
theefore sinx+cosx=sinx+siny=a

Yup! :biggrin:
i think can't drop 450 deg cos they did not mention tat it must be larger or equal to 0 and smaller or equal to 360. cos it produces different answers in the end..

But if x + y = 450, then y = 450 - x, so siny = sin(450-x) = sin(90-x) = cosx …

multiples of 360 make no difference. :wink:
siny=cosx or 2(siny/2)(cosy/2)

uhh? :confused:

2(siny/2)(cosy/2) = siny whatever x is … how does that help?
 
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Rather doing all those things, I think I could solve it on much easier way:
If [tex]sinx+siny=a[/tex] then [tex]sinx+\sqrt{1-cos^2y}=a[/tex], from the other equation [tex]cosy=a-cosx[/tex]:

[tex]sinx+\sqrt{1-(a-cosx)^2}=a[/tex]

[tex]\sqrt{1-(a^2-2acosx+cos^2x)}=a-sinx[/tex]

[tex]1-a^2+2acosx-cos^2x=a^2-2asinx+sin^2x[/tex]

[tex]sin^2x-a^2+2acosx=a^2-2asinx+sin^2x[/tex]

[tex]-a^2+2acosx=a^2-2asinx[/tex]

[tex]2acosx+2asinx=2a^2[/tex]

I think,now, out of here you know the answer. Regards.
 
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thank you guys very much..:smile:
is there a way to rep you guys or something?
 
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icystrike said:
thank you guys very much..:smile:
is there a way to rep you guys or something?

There's no repping on this forum …

just be extra kind to the next goldfish you meet! :biggrin:
 

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