Solved: Relativistic Speed: Force of 30N Reaches 99% c in 7 x 10⁴ Sec

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The problem involves a particle of mass 1 gram subjected to a force of 30 Newtons, aiming to determine the time it takes to reach 99% of the speed of light. The context is rooted in relativistic physics, where classical mechanics may not apply.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the validity of different time options for reaching relativistic speeds, with some suggesting that classical calculations are insufficient. There is a focus on the implications of relativistic mass and acceleration as speed increases.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided insights into the relationship between force, momentum, and relativistic effects, suggesting that the time of 7 x 10⁴ seconds may be correct. Others are questioning how to approach the problem and whether the increase in mass should be considered given the force's definition in its rest frame.

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There is a mention of the force being defined in the rest frame, which raises questions about how relativistic effects should be factored into the calculations. Participants are exploring the implications of this definition on the problem's setup.

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Homework Statement



A particle of mass 1 gm starts from rest and moves under the action of a force of 30
Newtons defined in the rest frame. It will reach 99% the velocity of light in time
(a) 9.9 x 10³ sec (b) 7 x 10⁴ sec (c) 0.999 sec (d) 0.7 sec

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The Attempt at a Solution



I can safely disregard (c) and (d)

(a) can be found by kinematic calculation.But as the particle moves in relativistic speed, this classical calculation does not hold.

(b) looks correct to me.

But how to prove this?

Can anyone suggest anything?
 
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as speed increases,the value of m(v) also increases,thus reducing the acceleration.Thus, it takes longer time...In that respect (b) looks plausible.
 
neelakash said:

Homework Statement



A particle of mass 1 gm starts from rest and moves under the action of a force of 30
Newtons defined in the rest frame. It will reach 99% the velocity of light in time
(a) 9.9 x 10³ sec (b) 7 x 10⁴ sec (c) 0.999 sec (d) 0.7 sec

Homework Equations


The Attempt at a Solution



I can safely disregard (c) and (d)

(a) can be found by kinematic calculation.But as the particle moves in relativistic speed, this classical calculation does not hold.

(b) looks correct to me.

But how to prove this?

Can anyone suggest anything?



In relativity, [tex]F = \frac{dp}{dt}[/tex] still holds. For a constant force you have then

[tex]p_{final} - p_{initial} = F \Delta t[/tex]

setting p initial equal to zero and using for the final [tex]p= \gamma m v[/tex] gives the correct answer, which is indeed b.


Note: your argument is correct and it's sufficient if all you need is to pick the correct answer quickly from a choice of answers. I just wanted to show you how to do the calculation if you needed that at some point.
 
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Yes,I followed your argument.

Thanks for your help.
 
Tell me one thing.The force is specified to be 30 dyne in its own rest frame.So, is the increase of mass is to be considered at all?
 

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