Solving 2 Queries on 0/0 and x=(1/(1/x))

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The discussion revolves around understanding indeterminate forms in calculus, specifically the types 0/0 and infinity/infinity, as well as evaluating the expression x = (1/(1/x)). Participants explore the application of L'Hospital's Rule and the nature of these forms.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss how to identify whether a limit results in a 0/0 or infinity/infinity form and question the applicability of L'Hospital's Rule to other forms like 0/infinity or infinity/0. They also explore the manipulation of the expression x = (1/(1/x)) and its validity.

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The conversation is ongoing, with participants providing insights and examples to clarify the concepts. Some guidance has been offered regarding the evaluation of limits and the conditions under which L'Hospital's Rule can be applied, but no consensus has been reached on all points raised.

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Participants are navigating the complexities of indeterminate forms and the rules surrounding them, indicating a need for clarity on definitions and applications without resolving the underlying questions.

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2 questions...

Firstly, how can we tell if the quotient is 0/0, or infinite/infinite, I know that obviously we can sub the variable in as 0 and if the result of both denominator and numerator is 0, we can apply the L'Hospital Rule.

But how can we tell whether its a 0/0 type or infinite/infinite type? And can we apply the rule if its a 0/infinite type or infinite/0 type?

2nd questions...

I just found out x = (1/(1/x)) Is this correct? Why is that so? How do you poof it? I know that x = 1/(x^-1) so if we invert it again... its 1/((1/(x)^-1))^-1 but how do you get (1/(1/x))?
 
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1) You evaluate the limit as x approaches whatever number is given. If the top and bottom are both 0 or both infinite (along with another hand-full of indeterminate forms), you can then apply l'Hopital's rule.

2) x = (1/(1/x)) is true. try substituting x=2 into the equation. what's your answer? also, 1/(x^-1) = (1/(1/x)).
 
mg0stisha said:
1) You evaluate the limit as x approaches whatever number is given. If the top and bottom are both 0 or both infinite (along with another hand-full of indeterminate forms), you can then apply l'Hopital's rule.

2) x = (1/(1/x)) is true. try substituting x=2 into the equation. what's your answer? also, 1/(x^-1) = (1/(1/x)).

How bout 0/infinity or inifinity/0 can we use the Lhospital rule on that?
 
DorumonSg said:
How bout 0/infinity or inifinity/0 can we use the Lhospital rule on that?

a better question is do you need to...

you use L'Hops rule becaus the form is indeterminant

if your limit takes the form 1/infinity what does the limit become? so with that in mind what do you think 0/infinity tends o?
 

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