Solving a Block's Motion on Inclined & Horizontal Surfaces

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The problem involves a block of mass 3.0 kg sliding down an inclined plane at an angle of 30 degrees and then moving along a horizontal surface, with friction acting on both surfaces. The objective is to determine how far the block slides on the horizontal surface before coming to rest, considering the effects of friction and energy conservation.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss using Conservation of Energy to analyze the motion of the block, questioning how to incorporate friction into the energy calculations. There are attempts to find the speed of the block at the bottom of the incline and to understand the energy lost due to friction.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different interpretations of energy conservation in the presence of friction. Some guidance has been offered regarding the relationship between the energies at the top and bottom of the ramp, as well as the concept of work done by friction.

Contextual Notes

Participants are navigating the complexities of energy loss due to friction and the implications for calculating the block's speed at various points in its motion. There is an acknowledgment of the need to quantify the work done by friction, but no specific values or formulas have been provided.

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A block of mass 3.0 kg starts at a height 0.60 m on a plane that has an angle of 30 degrees from the horizontal. Upon reaching the bottom, the block slides along a horizontal surface. If the coefficient of friction on both surfaces is 0.20, how far does the block slide on the horizontal surface before coming to rest?

I found the net force on the block and from there the acceleration, but i think this problem is supposed to be solved using Conservation of Energy theory, or something along those lines.

I know E initial cannot = E final since friction is acting on the block, but I'm not sure how to work that into the problem.

Can anyone help with this question?
 
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If I can find the speed of the block at the bottom of the inclined plane, I'll be able to work it out from there, but how do i find the speed when friction is present?
 
If you take the block, ramp, floor and the air surrounding all these, the energy will be conserved. But, in this problem, only the block is important. So, while the block's coming down, it gains kinetic energy, but also loses some energy due to friction. You know how much it had initially, this should tell you how much it would have when it is at the bottom of the ramp. The second part is quite simple once you know at what speed the block leaves the ramp.
 
So are you saying the energy at the top will equal the energy at the bottom of the ramp?
 
If that were so, then the block would not have lost energy.

Energy(top) = Energy(bottom) + Energy(lost)
 
Right, but how do you figure out how much energy is lost due to friction? Is it something to do with Work?
 
leighzer said:
Right, but how do you figure out how much energy is lost due to friction? Is it something to do with Work?
Exactly. The plane does work on the block. Now, if you know the force due to friction and the definition of work, finding the work done should be simple. :)
 
Ok, thanks for the help.
 

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