Solving a Complex Vector Problem: Finding the Magnitude of ix+y

  • Thread starter Thread starter fredrick08
  • Start date Start date
  • Tags Tags
    Vector
Click For Summary

Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around finding the magnitude of a complex vector expression involving the vectors x and y, defined as x=(i,1,1) and y=(1,i,2). Participants are exploring the correct application of vector magnitude concepts in the context of complex numbers.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the definition of vector magnitude and the use of complex conjugates. There are attempts to clarify the steps involved in calculating the magnitude, including the dot product and the application of the conjugate.

Discussion Status

Some participants are questioning the correctness of their calculations and the application of the conjugate in the context of complex vectors. There is a mix of attempts to clarify the process and expressions of uncertainty regarding the steps taken. A few participants express a lack of confidence in their understanding of the material.

Contextual Notes

There is a noted confusion regarding when to apply the conjugate in calculations, as well as uncertainty about the correct interpretation of the magnitude in the context of complex vectors. Participants are revisiting foundational concepts related to vector magnitudes and complex numbers.

fredrick08
Messages
374
Reaction score
0

Homework Statement


let x=(i,1,1) and y=(1,i,2)

find the magnitude of ix+y


The Attempt at a Solution



i(i,1,1)+(1,i,2)=(0,2i,2+i)

therefore mag sqrd = 0^2+(2i+2(-i))+(2+i)(2-i)=9 => magnitude = 3?

is this rite? i have completely forgotten when to take the conjugates... idk if I am not meant to take the conjugate of 2i, but i have to for 2+i... please can anyone reassure me.
 
Physics news on Phys.org
It doesn't look like you did it right... why don't you start by writing down the definition of the magnitude of a vector? Then remember that [itex]|a|^2 = a \bar{a}[/itex]
 
magnitude of a vector is its length, normally would do pythagouras, but for complex the magnitude is sqr root of the vector*conjugate. i think
 
So why don't you write that out explicitly? That's not what you did in your original post. Work it out slowly
 
ok well i(i,1,1)dotproduct(1,i,2)=(-1,i,i)dotproduct(1,i,2)=(-1+1)i+(i+i)j+(2+i)k=(0,2i,2+i)

sqr root of that taking conjugates..(which not not sure about) = root(0^2+(2i*-2i)+((2+i)(2-i)))=root(0+4+5)=root(9)=3? i can't take it any slower then that, please can u tell me where i am going wrong
 
or r u sayingi have to take the conjugate when i multiply x by i?

then it would be root((1,i,i)dot(1,-i,-i)+(1,i,2)dot(1,-i,2))=root((1+1+1)+(1+1+4))=root(9)=3?? omg i don't know
 
anyone have any ideaS?
 
please anyone?
 
no one?
 
  • #10
fredrick08 said:
or r u sayingi have to take the conjugate when i multiply x by i?
I don't believe so. Your ix + y is the vector you want the magnitude of, so it's the one you want to multiply by its complex conjugate.
fredrick08 said:
then it would be root((1,i,i)dot(1,-i,-i)+(1,i,2)dot(1,-i,2))=root((1+1+1)+(1+1+4))=root(9)=3?? omg i don't know
I also get 3 for the magnitude of ix + y.
 
  • #11
ok thankyou very much = ) yes i thought so, just havnt done this stuff in so long, lost confidence.
 

Similar threads

  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
2K
Replies
31
Views
4K
  • · Replies 3 ·
Replies
3
Views
2K
  • · Replies 12 ·
Replies
12
Views
4K
Replies
8
Views
3K
  • · Replies 4 ·
Replies
4
Views
2K
  • · Replies 22 ·
Replies
22
Views
4K
Replies
10
Views
3K
Replies
7
Views
2K
  • · Replies 4 ·
Replies
4
Views
2K