Solving a Difficult Physics Problem: Induced EMF

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The problem involves calculating the induced electromotive force (emf) in a rod moving along conducting rails within a magnetic field generated by a parallel current-carrying wire. The parameters include the length of the rod, its speed, the distance from the wire, and the current flowing through the wire.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the integration of the magnetic field over the length of the rod and question the limits of integration. There are attempts to verify calculations and clarify the correct application of formulas for induced emf.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided alternative approaches to the integration process and have raised questions about the correctness of the parameters used in the calculations. There is acknowledgment of previous errors, and some guidance has been offered regarding the integration limits and the conversion of units.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the importance of unit conversion, particularly regarding the distance 'a' given in millimeters, and the need to ensure that the correct length is used in the emf calculation.

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This problem is difficult to describe, so I'll post a picture.
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The figure above shows a rod of length L caused to move at a constant speed v along horizontal conducting rails. The magnetic field B (the magnitude and direction of which are qualitatively shown by the figure) is not constant, but is supplied by a long wire parallel to the conducting rails. This wire is a distance a from the rail and has a current i.

L=3.13 cm, v=3.11 m/s, a=15.6 mm, and i=11 A.

What is the induced emf (e) in the rod?

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B = (u_0 I)/(2pi y), and it is not uniform, so I integrated over y=a...L
I got (u_0 I)/(2pi)*ln(L/a).

emf = vBL = v * (u_0 I)/(2pi)*ln(L/a) * L = 3.11 * 1.544597242E-6 * 0.0313 = 1.503557293E-7 V

That is not the right answer, however.
I double-checked that my calculations are correct. So I'm guessing that my steps are incorrect. Can anyone point me to where I'm going wrong?

Thanks.
 
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I would try this;

[tex]B = \frac{\mu_{0} I}{2\pi y}[/tex]

a is a constant; [itex]y = a + L[/itex]

[tex]\frac{dB}{dL} = \frac{\mu_{0} I}{2\pi a + 2\pi L} \; dL[/tex]

[tex]B = \int^{0.0313}_{0} \frac{\mu_{0} I}{2\pi a + 2\pi L} \; dL[/tex]

See if that works.

~H
 
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Shouldn't the integration be done over y=a..a+L?

EDIT: I'm always too slow :smile:.
 
B was approximately 3.326E-4, and emf was 3.23762818E-5 V, which was still incorrect.
Am I using the right L for emf = vBL? I'm using 3.13 cm (0.0313 m).
 
I think you may have integrated in correctly you should obtain;

[tex]B = \int^{0.0313}_{0} \frac{\mu_{0} I}{2\pi a + 2\pi L} \; dL[/tex]

[tex]B = \left[ \frac{1}{2}\mu_{0}I \log (a + L) \right]^{0.0313}_{0}[/tex]

Also ensure that you are converting correctly, note that a is given in mm. You are using the correct equation here;

nahya said:
Am I using the right L for emf = vBL? I'm using 3.13 cm (0.0313 m)

~H
 
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Thanks, that worked.
Weird, though, because I had used my calculator to graph the equation and integrate graphically.
 
nahya said:
Thanks, that worked.
Weird, though, because I had used my calculator to graph the equation and integrate graphically.

No problem. I prefer pen and paper :wink:

~H
 

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