Solving a Functional Equation - Muzialis

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The discussion revolves around solving a functional equation where the goal is to find a function that increases by a multiplicative factor when the independent variable is increased by a specified amount. The scope includes mathematical reasoning and exploration of potential solutions to the functional equation.

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Main Points Raised

  • Muzialis proposes the equation y(lambda*x) = a*lambda*y(x) and questions whether the task is well posed, expressing difficulty in finding solutions independent of lambda.
  • Another participant suggests reformulating the problem as y(x + λ) = y(x) + aλ.
  • Muzialis acknowledges the suggestion but insists that the increase is specified as a multiplicative factor, maintaining that their original setup is necessary for solving the problem.
  • A different participant questions if the equation could be expressed as y((1+λ)x) = (1+aλ)y(x) and notes a contradiction arises unless a = 1.
  • Muzialis expresses skepticism about the existence of a solution for lambda > 1 and mentions that the task was clarified to require a function with a derivative of lambda at a specific point.
  • Muzialis remains curious about the potential solutions to the original setup despite doubts about its validity.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the formulation of the problem and its solvability. There is no consensus on whether the task is well posed or if a solution exists.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the original task may have been poorly posed and that assumptions about the nature of the function and the parameters involved are not fully resolved.

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Hi All,

I am asked to produce a function such that, literally, increasing the indipendent variable by lambda will produce an increase in the function of a*lambda.

I thought about setting up an equation as follows

y(lambda*x)=a*lambda*y(x)

In general a simple solution of the functional equation y(ax)-by(x)=0 is y = Kx^(ln(a)/ln(b)). C is arbitrary

Using this solution scheme I am unable to obtain solutions independent upon lambda.

Is the task well posed at all?

Thank you very much

Muzialis
 
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I would have formulated it as:

Find y such that y(x + λ) = y(x) + aλ.
 
EnumaElish,

thanks for the hint.

Your set up is coherent with my description.
However I have been imprecise, the increase is specified in the task as a multiplicative factor, so my set up is the one actually that needs solving.

I am pretty sure the task was badly posed though as I do not see how a solution could exist.

But then, that is why I posted the issue.

Thanks and all the best

Muzialis
 
Could it mean y((1+λ)x) = (1+aλ)y(x)?

With y(λx) = aλy(x), assume (trivially) λ = 1. Then y(x) = ay(x), which is a contradiction except for a = 1. In this formulation λ has to be > 1.
 
EnumaElish,

I appreciate your ad absurdum reasoning. But can you find any solution for lambda > 1?

I am sure the task was badly posed. The fact is it was proposed to me by a working partner whose maths is usually very precise, so I wanted to be extra sure I was not stating nonsense.

It has been later clarified that all it was needed was a function with a derivative of lambda, locally in a point of interest.

I am curious now tough, if the set up I originally proposed has any solution at all, although I fear not.

Thank you very much

Best Regards

Muzialis
 

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