Solving a Homogeneous System of Equations

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The discussion revolves around solving a homogeneous system of equations represented by a set of equations involving sums of variables indexed by divisibility conditions. The problem is framed within the context of linear algebra and systems of equations.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the implications of reducing the system by eliminating variables based on the equations. There is a focus on how the reduction of the second half of the system affects the first half, and whether this leads to a simpler form of the problem.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants offering insights into the reduction process and questioning how far this can be taken. Some guidance has been provided regarding the potential to simplify the problem further by removing variables as solutions are identified.

Contextual Notes

Some participants express uncertainty about the relationship between the two halves of the system and how the reduction of one affects the other. There is also mention of using specific examples to clarify the reasoning process.

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Homework Statement


Let ##n## be some natural number. Solve the following ##n \times n## homogeneous system of equations:

$$\sum_{1|i} x_i = 0$$

$$\sum_{2|i} x_i = 0$$
$$\vdots$$

$$\sum_{n|i} x_i = 0$$,

where ##a|b## means ##b## is divisible by ##a##.

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The Attempt at a Solution


After working through examples, it seems that ##x_i = 0## holds for all ##i \in \{1,...,n\}##. Since ##1|i## holds for ##i=1,2,...,n##, the first equation becomes ##\sum_{i=1}^n x_i = 0##. Moreover, since ##n|i## happens if and only if ##i=n##, the last equation reduces to ##x_n = 0##. Through my experiments I noticed that the "second" half of the system equations reduced to a single variable equal to ##0##; i.e., ##x_i = 0## for ##i \in \{n - [\frac{n}{2}],...,n\}##, where ##[a]## denote the greatest integer function.

I tried several times to use these observations in solving the problem, but I didn't have much luck. I could use a hint.
 
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Bashyboy said:
the last equation reduces to ##x_n = 0##
you can decrease the size of your system to ##n-1## by removing ##x_n##. And so on. You already did it down to ##n/2##. What stops you from going all the way to ## n = 1## ?
 
Because I cannot see how the reduction of the "second" half of the system trickles down to the "first" half, thereby reduces it further.

The reduction of the second half seems to leave us with the following system:

$$\sum_{1|i} x_i = 0$$

$$\sum_{2|i} x_i = 0$$

$$\vdots$$

$$\sum_{(n - [n/2] - 1)|i} x_i = 0$$

I realize that I am probably over-complicating this, but I see no way of under-complicating it.
 
When in doubt do a simple example: n = 10

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 ## \ \ ## from ##\sum_{10|i} x_i = 0##
...
...
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 ## \ \ ## from ##\sum_{6|i} x_i = 0##

Then: ##\sum_{5|i} x_i = 0## says ##x_5 + x_{10} = 0## but we already had ##x_{10} = 0 ## as the first step, so now ##x_5 = 0## and we continue to gnaw at the second half in the same way until we only have 1/4 left, which... etc.

Another way to look at it: you start with n equations in n unknowns. The first step reduces that to n-1 x n-1 and ##x_n = 0 ##, which can now be forgotten about completely.
The second step ##\rightarrow ## n-2 x n-2 ... etc.
 
Bashyboy said:

Homework Statement


Let ##n## be some natural number. Solve the following ##n \times n## homogeneous system of equations:
$$\sum_{1|i} x_i = 0$$
$$\sum_{2|i} x_i = 0$$
$$\vdots$$
$$\sum_{n|i} x_i = 0$$,
where ##a|b## means ##b## is divisible by ##a##.

You already have it: you have shown that you must have ##x_n = 0##. That means that you can throw out ##x_n## and change ##n## to ##n-1##. In other words, you have a problem with a new, smaller ##n##, and you can just start over. Nothing stops you from continuing like that all the way down to ##n = 1##.
 

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