Solving (a+ib)^2 = (c+id)^2: Understanding the Problem and Finding Solutions

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The discussion revolves around the equation (a+ib)² = (c+id)², where participants are exploring the implications of this equality for complex numbers. The subject area includes complex number algebra and properties of equality in the context of real and imaginary components.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants attempt to expand both sides of the equation and analyze the resulting expressions. There are discussions about the conditions under which the real and imaginary parts must be equal, leading to equations involving a, b, c, and d. Some participants question the assumptions about the values of these variables and explore the implications of different cases.

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The discussion is active, with participants providing various insights and approaches to the problem. Some have suggested factoring the difference of squares, while others are considering the implications of real and imaginary components. There is no explicit consensus, but several productive lines of reasoning are being explored.

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Participants note the requirement that a, b, c, and d are real numbers, which influences the discussion about possible solutions and interpretations of the equations derived from the original problem.

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Homework Statement


How do I show that if (a+ib)2 = (c+id)2 then (a+ib) = [tex]\pm[/tex](c+id)

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The Attempt at a Solution


(a+ib)(a+ib) = a2 + 2aib -b2
(c+id)(c+id) = c2 + 2cid - d2
Stuck after this.
 
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squenshl said:

The Attempt at a Solution


(a+ib)(a+ib) = a2 + 2aib -b2
(c+id)(c+id) = c2 + 2cid - d2
Stuck after this.

Well, if a,b,c and d are all real numbers, then you must have a2-b2=c2-d2 and ab=2cd (for two complex number to be equal, their real parts must be equal and their imaginary parts must be equal)
 


Don't you mean ab = cd. So b = cd/a then (cd/a)2 - b2 = c2 - d2
a4 - c2d2 = a2c2 - a2 - d2
(a2 - c2)(a2 + d2) = 0
Am I on the right track
 


squenshl said:
Don't you mean ab = cd. So b = cd/a then (cd/a)2 - b2 = c2 - d2
a4 - c2d2 = a2c2 - a2 - d2
(a2 - c2)(a2 + d2) = 0
Am I on the right track

Yes. Now realize that for (a2 - c2)(a2 + d2) to be zero, either a2= c2 or c2=-d2...but "a", "c" and "d" are real numbers, so a=___?
 


If [itex](a+bi)^2=(c+di)^2[/itex], then clearly [itex](a+bi)^2 - (c+di)^2 = 0[/itex]. Factor this expression and use the zero product property to arrive at the desired result.
 


jgens said:
If [itex](a+bi)^2=(c+di)^2[/itex], then clearly [itex](a+bi)^2 - (c+di)^2 = 0[/itex]. Factor this expression and use the zero product property to arrive at the desired result.

That works fine, provided you've already proven that

[tex]z_1z_2=0\implies z_1=0\;\;\;\text{or}\;\;\;z_2=0[/itex]<br /> <br /> for complex numbers.[/tex]
 


a2 = -d2 & a2 = c2
a = [tex]\pm[/tex]id & a = [tex]\pm[/tex]c
 
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Right, but you can immediately throw away the solution [itex]a=\pm id[/itex] since both [itex]a[/itex]and [itex]d[/itex] are supposed to be real numbers...What does the other solution give you for [itex]b[/itex] when you plug it back into [itex]b=\frac{cd}{a}[/itex]?
 


b = [tex]\pm[/tex]d
What do we plug that into?
Since we know what a & b is hence (a+ib) = ([tex]\pm[/tex]c + i[tex]\pm[/tex]d) then factorise to get (a+ib) = [tex]\pm[/tex](c+id)
 
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Yeah, basically. If [itex]a=\pm c[/itex] and [itex]b=\pm d[/itex], then [itex](a+ ib)=\pm(c + i d)[/itex] and you're done.:smile:
 
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Awesome.
Cheers.
What if I wanted to do it in polar form.
 
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In polar form, you would basically want to show that [itex](r_1e^{i\phi_1})^2=(r_2e^{i\phi_2})^2[/itex] implies [itex]r_1e^{i\phi_1}=\pm r_2e^{i\phi_2}[/itex] and for that, you would use the fact that [itex]e^{i\phi_2}=e^{i(\phi_2+2\pi n}[/itex] to finds the two unique roots of the equation.
 
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What if I wanted to go (a+ib)2 = r12(cos(2[tex]\vartheta[/tex]) + isin(2[tex]\vartheta[/tex]))
 
  • #14


Then you would just expand (a+ib)^2 again, and compare the real and imaginary parts on both sides of the equation...
 
  • #15


No thanks. That's nasty.
I'll leave the answer in rectangular form.
 
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