Solving a Momentum Problem: Calculating Force and Barrel Length

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The discussion revolves around a physics problem involving momentum and force calculations related to a human cannonball scenario. The original poster seeks clarification on how to determine the length of the cannon barrel given the impulse experienced by the cannonball.

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  • Participants explore the relationship between impulse, force, and distance traveled by the cannonball. Questions arise regarding the interpretation of the time and force in the context of the problem, with some suggesting the use of kinematics and others focusing on momentum and energy considerations.

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The discussion is active, with various interpretations being explored. Some participants suggest using kinematic equations, while others argue that understanding impulse and momentum may suffice to find the necessary distance. There is no explicit consensus on the best approach yet.

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Participants note potential confusion regarding the units of impulse and the assumptions about initial conditions, such as the initial velocity of the cannonball being zero. The time of 0.35 seconds is emphasized as a critical factor in the calculations.

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I am having problems with part B of the following question.

A human cannonball with a mass of 70 kg experiences an impulse of 4000 N/s for 0.35 s
a) Calculate the force acting on the human cannonball.

This is my sol'n:

J = 4000 N/s
(delta)t = 0.35 s

J = F(delta)t
4000 N/s = F(0.35 s)
F = (4000 N/s) / (0.35 s)
F = 11429 N

b) How long was the barrel of the cannon? (Assume the force is applied only for a period of time that the cannonball is in the cannon.)

For part B I think I just need clarification on what the question is saying. Is it saying to change the time or the force ?
 
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From my understanding, you have to find the distance the object traveled while it was in the cannon.
 
the time given was 0.35 s. Do i just pick a anumber like 0.1 for the time it was in the cannon ??
 
Ummm...no. I think you'd stick with 0.35 s, seeing how that's what's given to you.

btw, I think the units of impulse should be N*s, not N/s
 
I think you need to use kinematics + Force. d = v_1*t +.5at^2. You can find out the acceleration from Fnet = ma and the initial velocity would be 0 since cannon balls usually start from rest before shot out of a cannon.
 
I don't think kinematics are necessary. From the impulse, you know the change in momentum. That gives you the final velocity. As cse63146 said, the initial velocity is zero. From that, you know the change in kinetic energy, which gives you the work done. If you know the work done, and you have calculated the magnitude of the force that did it, then you know over what distance that force must have acted.
 
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cepheid said:
I don't think kinematics are necessary. From the impulse, you know the change in momentum. That gives you the final velocity. As cse63146 said, the initial velocity is zero. From that, you know the change in kinetic energy, which gives you the work done. If you know the work done, and you have calculated the magnitude of the force that did it, then you know over what distance that force must have acted.

Yeah, that sounds more reasonable.
 
Kinematics does work because you can find the accelatration due to Newtons law and plug that into a kinematics equation
 

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