Solving a Quadratic and Polynomial Equation | Graph Homework

  • Thread starter Thread starter realism877
  • Start date Start date
  • Tags Tags
    Graph Type
Click For Summary

Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around solving a quadratic and polynomial equation represented as 4x² - 8x + 3y² + 18y - 23 = 0. Participants are exploring the nature of the equation and its graphical representation, questioning whether it describes a circle or an ellipse.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the original poster's attempt at rewriting the equation and question the correctness of the factors. There are requests for assistance in breaking down the problem step by step, with suggestions to verify the equation's transcription. Some participants also explore the implications of completing the square for both x and y terms.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants providing guidance on how to approach the problem, particularly in completing the square. There is acknowledgment of the need to clarify the type of conic section represented by the equation, with some participants suggesting it is an ellipse rather than a circle. Multiple interpretations of the equation are being explored.

Contextual Notes

Participants are working under the constraints of homework rules, which may limit the extent of guidance provided. There is an emphasis on understanding the equation's structure and the need to complete the square correctly.

realism877
Messages
80
Reaction score
0

Homework Statement



4x2 - 8x + 3y2 + 18y - 23 = 0

Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution



4(x-4)^+3(y+9)^=120


What did I do wrong?
 
Physics news on Phys.org
Your factors are incorrect. Your graph is not a circle.
 
Can I get assistance to break it down from a to z?
 
Well, sure. We can both learn as we go since I'm only familiar with parabolas and circles. Let's both work on our ends to find the solution.

To start, re-check your equation and make sure you typed it as it appears on your notebook or textbook, please. In the meantime, we are looking for something of the form:

(x-h)^2/a^2 + (y-k)^2/b^2 = 1

or

(y-k)^2/a^2 + (x-k)^2/b^2 = 1

That should look very familiar to the circle equation, no?
 
Mathnomalous,
This is NOT the equation of a circle, if that's what you were driving at. The equation you gave is similar to (not familiar to) the equation of a circle, but the equation is of an ellipse.
4x2 - 8x + 3y2 + 18y - 23 = 0

Realism877,
You started off on the right track, but you complete the square in the x and y terms incorrectly.

4x2 - 8x + 3y2 + 18y - 23 = 0
4(x2 - 2x) + 3(y2 + 6y) = 23
Now figure out what you need to add in the first group to complete the square in the x terms, and what you need to add in the second group to complete the square in the y terms. Be sure to add both numbers to the right side.

When you have done that, divide both sides by whatever number you have on the right side. You should end up with something that looks like this:
[tex]\frac{(x - h)^2}{a^2} + \frac{(y - k)^2}{b^2} = 1[/tex]
 

Similar threads

  • · Replies 6 ·
Replies
6
Views
3K
Replies
1
Views
2K
  • · Replies 8 ·
Replies
8
Views
2K
Replies
4
Views
2K
  • · Replies 4 ·
Replies
4
Views
1K
  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
2K
  • · Replies 11 ·
Replies
11
Views
3K
  • · Replies 14 ·
Replies
14
Views
2K
Replies
5
Views
4K
  • · Replies 17 ·
Replies
17
Views
3K